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	<title>Comments on: Dopey DOPA-ites take aim at Flickr?</title>
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		<title>By: drumsnwhistles</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-7635</link>
		<dc:creator>drumsnwhistles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JJJ, and welcome --

I looked at all of those links and found nothing even vaguely resembling child pornography.  I did find a lot of parody, but nothing even close to the real deal, or at least, what I would imagine the real deal to be.

DnW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JJJ, and welcome &#8211;</p>
<p>I looked at all of those links and found nothing even vaguely resembling child pornography.  I did find a lot of parody, but nothing even close to the real deal, or at least, what I would imagine the real deal to be.</p>
<p>DnW</p>
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		<title>By: jonfeinstein</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-7624</link>
		<dc:creator>jonfeinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my photo was linked among others that you claimed to depict &quot;nude children&quot;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonfeinstein/94689093/

this is a photo of a blowup doll wearing a dress jacket. It&#039;s supposed to be funny and idiosyncratic. If you have an argument make sure the photos are directly relevant.

thx
JJJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my photo was linked among others that you claimed to depict &#8220;nude children&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonfeinstein/94689093/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonfeinstein/94689093/</a></p>
<p>this is a photo of a blowup doll wearing a dress jacket. It&#8217;s supposed to be funny and idiosyncratic. If you have an argument make sure the photos are directly relevant.</p>
<p>thx<br />
JJJ</p>
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		<title>By: drumsnwhistles</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-6972</link>
		<dc:creator>drumsnwhistles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J -- 

When you said you posted them it occurred to me that the spam filtering software I use might have caught them -- which it did. (Usually posts with this many links in them are spam...).

It&#039;s there now.

I think the photos speak for themselves -- they&#039;re hardly pornography.  On the other hand, if I were tagging I wouldn&#039;t have tagged them with those terms, even if they&#039;re truly descriptive.  It still doesn&#039;t justify banning flickr.

DnW

12-8-2006: I&#039;ve placed the comments with links to the photos in question in the &quot;moderated bucket&quot; because they are attracting far too much spam.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J &#8212; </p>
<p>When you said you posted them it occurred to me that the spam filtering software I use might have caught them &#8212; which it did. (Usually posts with this many links in them are spam&#8230;).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s there now.</p>
<p>I think the photos speak for themselves &#8212; they&#8217;re hardly pornography.  On the other hand, if I were tagging I wouldn&#8217;t have tagged them with those terms, even if they&#8217;re truly descriptive.  It still doesn&#8217;t justify banning flickr.</p>
<p>DnW</p>
<p>12-8-2006: I&#8217;ve placed the comments with links to the photos in question in the &#8220;moderated bucket&#8221; because they are attracting far too much spam.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-6971</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>......oh.

I posted them somewhere.  Hold on, I&#039;ll find them again.  It&#039;s not really anything SEXUAL, and I agree with that.  There weren&#039;t any other posts on here that I posted to?

Crap.  I knew I shouldn&#039;t use IE again.

Ok, anyway, no, not many of them were sexual (unless you&#039;re into seeing naked kids), but then again, I didn&#039;t sign up for Flickr...I just did a search.

Actually, I&#039;ll just bookmark this page and I&#039;ll look again if you want.  I found quite a few of &quot;nude children&quot; on Flickr.  I think that&#039;s what they&#039;re going after, and calling it &quot;child pornography&quot;, because of the fact that it&#039;s kids and they&#039;re not wearing clothes.


Anyway, on the subject of the OTHER thread I was posting to, I&#039;m not trying to come off as an angry bastard or anything.

And as for the one on here, I could have SWORN I posted those links.  Bah...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;oh.</p>
<p>I posted them somewhere.  Hold on, I&#8217;ll find them again.  It&#8217;s not really anything SEXUAL, and I agree with that.  There weren&#8217;t any other posts on here that I posted to?</p>
<p>Crap.  I knew I shouldn&#8217;t use IE again.</p>
<p>Ok, anyway, no, not many of them were sexual (unless you&#8217;re into seeing naked kids), but then again, I didn&#8217;t sign up for Flickr&#8230;I just did a search.</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ll just bookmark this page and I&#8217;ll look again if you want.  I found quite a few of &#8220;nude children&#8221; on Flickr.  I think that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re going after, and calling it &#8220;child pornography&#8221;, because of the fact that it&#8217;s kids and they&#8217;re not wearing clothes.</p>
<p>Anyway, on the subject of the OTHER thread I was posting to, I&#8217;m not trying to come off as an angry bastard or anything.</p>
<p>And as for the one on here, I could have SWORN I posted those links.  Bah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drumsnwhistles</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-6959</link>
		<dc:creator>drumsnwhistles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J, I haven&#039;t ever had any links on this blog to photos of nude children.  As my post implies, I couldn&#039;t find any.  Certainly none that were in any way sexual -- perhaps a photo of a two-year old playing in the pool but I hardly consider that pornographic.

This post has not been edited since it was posted, so I&#039;m at a loss to know what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J, I haven&#8217;t ever had any links on this blog to photos of nude children.  As my post implies, I couldn&#8217;t find any.  Certainly none that were in any way sexual &#8212; perhaps a photo of a two-year old playing in the pool but I hardly consider that pornographic.</p>
<p>This post has not been edited since it was posted, so I&#8217;m at a loss to know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberbullying at odd time signatures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyberbullying at odd time signatures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I really believe we have to stop shouting out for laws. DOPA was the last ill-advised result of this attitude. That attitude says this to me: &#8220;Parent, you are not capable of educating or raising your child to be a good citizen on the planet or the Internet. It is, therefore, the job of the government to step in and educate your child with content we approve in a manner that we see fit.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I really believe we have to stop shouting out for laws. DOPA was the last ill-advised result of this attitude. That attitude says this to me: &#8220;Parent, you are not capable of educating or raising your child to be a good citizen on the planet or the Internet. It is, therefore, the job of the government to step in and educate your child with content we approve in a manner that we see fit.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: drumsnwhistles</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>drumsnwhistles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Donna!  It was a very cool idea on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Donna!  It was a very cool idea on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2006/08/04/dopey-dopa-ites-take-aim-at-flickr/comment-page-1/#comment-2821</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty outrageous. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve ever seen a site that&#039;s as responsible as Flickr. 

On the other hand, congrats on your seconds of fame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty outrageous. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve ever seen a site that&#8217;s as responsible as Flickr. </p>
<p>On the other hand, congrats on your seconds of fame!</p>
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