Scam Alert: Automotive Warranty Advisors

by Karoli on April 3, 2007 · 85 comments

This is the second notice we’ve received in the mail from these people. A couple of observations before I give details: a) There is no return address; only a telephone number; and b) There is no reference to which vehicle we should be considering a warranty for. Still, it looks pretty official, doesn’t it?

It took me awhile to track this down — Internet resources aren’t all that plentiful on these, but I did find some. There is a website for these people which consists of 2 pages: A home page which claims to have “Senior Warranty Consultants” to custom-design an aftermarket auto warranty for your needs, and a phone number.  The second page is a “contact us” page with the same phone number that’s on the home page.

A WhoIs query indicates that the business is located in Florida, but all contact information goes back to Premier Home Mortgage Corp. in Missouri, servers located in South Carolina (Nuvox Communications).

That’s the extent of what’s available online.

When we received the first notice, I assumed they were referring to the Prius, since our other car has nearly 200,000 miles on it.  But our Prius has an extended warranty out to 100,000 miles.  The language in this notice is loaded — here are some quotes intended to grab your attention:

This is your final warranty notice to extend or reinstate your warranty coverage

Sounds pretty official, doesn’t it?  Like maybe something isn’t right with our current coverage and it’s expiring?  Of course, as a throwaway they say that if you extended your warranty at the time of purchase, disregard, but they’re sending this out to everyone anyway.

It goes on with this:

The importance of having warranty protection is at an all time high.  If you have not extended your warranty yet, you must call (toll free) 1-800-xxx-xxxx on or before the deadline date.

This is an example of deceptive, covert marketing at its worst. It is a trap intended to force you to turn over your credit card and/or personal information on the phone.

WTOC TV in Savannah Georgia has a report on their website (their report concerns telemarketing, but I believe there are California restrictions on unsolicited telemarketers that would necessitate a different point of contact):

Two days ago, one telemarketer caught her attention, trying to sell her a new $1,600 warranty for her red 1999 Chrysler Town and Country van, which has 60,000 miles on it.

“They gave me this spiel about my car being out of warranty. You need this,” Sandra said. “If you need repairs, it will cost you money.”

Then the red flags started flying. They wanted her credit card and bank account numbers right then and there.

“There is no way I was giving my credit card over the phone,” Sandra said. “If I’m not giving credit, I’m certainly not giving my bank account number. She said, ‘We have to do this today.’ Okay. Red flag. You know this is illegitimate.”

“It’s just the most popular thing in cons,” Better Business Bureau president Ross Howard told WTOC.

Howard calls this type of scam spoofing. He says its object is to scare a customer into giving up personal info.

“Truth of the matter is, there are not many companies that will give you a warranty for cars with high mileage that is older,” Howard said. “They just want her money. That’s all it is.”

I did a search on the company at the Better Business Bureau website and got the following results:

The Bureau processed a total of 50 complaints about this company since the firm’s BBB file was opened in June of 2005. Of the total 50 complaints since the firm’s BBB file was opened in June of 2005, 47 of those were closed in the last 12 months

Several of those complaints were related to aggressive advertising, but many more were related to refund or exchange issues — nearly half. Despite this, the BBB gives it a “Satisfactory” record.

What troubles me the most about this covert, deceptive effort to get our personal information is that there are ties back to mortgage banking, whether direct or indirect. The BBB information lists a Sr. Vice President and Customer Service Manager as the company management – no President is listed.

So, assuming I were crazy enough to actually call this number, which I’m not and which I’m writing this to urge anyone reading this not to do, who would I really be giving my information to and why? Is the ultimate goal to engage them in some sort of mortgage marketing and/or scamming? (See this 2007 BBB warning about the proliferation of Advance fee Loan Scams).

The tipoffs that this was something other than what they claim to be?

  1. No notice that the card they mailed was an advertisement
  2. No mailing address on their correspondence
  3. An incomplete website with no explanation of their product
  4. The loaded language intended to make me believe I was somehow being irresponsible if I did not contact them immediately
  5. No association with Toyota, the dealer we purchased the car from, or the warranty currently covering the car

Beware of email, telephone calls and mail like this, and whatever you do, DON’T give your personal information to them, no matter how much you are pressured to do so.

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  • Otto Renoto

    I’ve been getting calls from this company on my Cell phone for the past couple of weeks. They call under the following numbers:

    562-289-8136

    614-543-6303

    281-520-3761

    It’s always a recorded message – something that according to FTC rules is against the rules. Advertisers are not allowed to this – here’s the rule:

    “FCC regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers don’t call consumers on their cell phones without their consent.”

    This is taken from

    http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt107.shtm

    See # 10.

    You can also make inquiries my sending an email to:

    [email protected]

    Which is what I’m going to do.

    And you can list your Cell Number on the Do Not Call list – but it’s supposed to be NOT NECESSARY according to FCC Regulations.

    Note: I’m posting this here because I found the 562 phone number on this site – and I thought people should know that these scammers are doing – and they are Scammers.

    The moment you ask them to identify themselves they hang up on you. And that is definitely against the FCC RULES – they are supposed to identify themselves immediately upon the beginning of the phone call.

    thank you,

    Otto Renoto

  • Otto Renoto

    Joe U.

    As to your fun – I’ve done that before – I can do a good impersonation of a hard of hearing old gentleman.

    “Huh….Whatya say? Huh? Who ya want? Huh? Whatya Say? Huh? Whatta ya want? Huh?….Huh? Oh? Huh? What car ya mean?…..Huh? Oh?…Huh?…whatta ya want?….Huh?…..who?….Who?….WHO?…Oh?…I live next door!…Oh?…..Who?….HUH?????…..He’s in da shower….Huh….Tony?….oh?…He’s got one of dem prezidents cars….huh…oh…Yeah….Huh…oh..a lincoln…continent or sumting like dat. …Yeah….3 years old..almost…I’ll…tell.Tony…..(muffled through towel)…get her name and number….(unmuffled)….Me again….Huh?….He said..to get your name and number and company and he’ll call you back….Huh?

    And they get so p+ssed off they finally hang up, but some are greedy nd will get a special number, and fake name and fake company name – anything to get a deal!

  • Zack

    Just plain rude! I responded to the “final notice” by calling 866-571-7977. Tim is a bigmouth and I just couldn’t get him to shut up long enough to ask a question. When he finally told me $3295, I responded with “Oh My God!” He immediately hung up on me. After I stopped laughing, I called him back and we argued more. I have it on tape! This was just too funny. The best thing we can do to these creeps is keep them on the phone as long as possible and waste their time. Consider it entertainment for you. They hate that. Good luck.

  • PJ

    I just called the number after receiving a second notice. I figured it was a scam (looks like a scam & smells like a scam), but I was curious, so thought what they hey… The guy asked for my “Customer ID number”, which I gave, so then he knew my name. I didn’t give him my VIN when he asked for it, and when I refused to give him my phone number without further information he hung up! Guess I didn’t sound gullible enough.

    I know better, but I’m concerned for people like my Grandpa. I wish there was something we could do.

  • doughnuts

    What can we do???!!!!

    I am so pleased to see these posts because I’ve become obsessed with getting these people over the last week! Both of my kids have been sick, so I’ve been cooped up in the house all day with calls coming in warning me “This is your final notice!” Uggh!! I figured it was a scam and did some research and found several local news stories on it. But it wasn’t until now that I found people as pissed off as I am, wanting to kick these people’s butts! And I’m a pretty mild-mannered person. But I’m obsessed with these annoying callers!

    Someone on another site said that the scammers retaliate against reports made to the BBB by calling your house at all crazy hours of the night. Is that true? Do they know who you are when you press 1 to talk to them if you don’t identify yourself?

    Mike from above may be right – maybe I do need to get a life. But I still don’t like him.

  • Missy

    I also have been getting calls from these guys at 978-570-2225. I have asked to be taken off their list but still receive them. Today I got through to speak with someone and asked for a number to call them back at, he refused, and when I asked again, hung up on me. I did get the name of Auto Warranty Advisors. This tactic really bothers me and makes me worry about people who would fall for it. I was shocked that my 1 year old vehicle warranty has expired.. and when I called my warranty people, they knew nothing about it.

  • Anonymous

    I just recieved this thing and I thought for a minute someone stole my identity (on paper) since I don’t even own a car and these people want me to extend my warranty on one? If that’s true I’d like to know where the heck this car went since I’ve used the bus most of the time and I could sure as hell use one.

  • Derrick

    I did the same thing on Feb 3rd, who do I make a complaint to at this point, cause I have not rec’d anything from them as well

  • mike

    i just got a call from 978-570-2395. automated call.. i googled it- found this site.. when i called auto warranty advisors.. they swore it wasn’t them.. im not sure i believe them.

  • Anonymous

    Calls I get are from 19546012600. Getting all different sorts of quotes for the last three days. Yes they are aggressive with their marketing. Did some reference checks and called dealer. Next time they call me they are not going to be happy. They are not connected up with any dealer or GM dealer as they claim to be. Nor it is an extension of your current warranty. Also received all sorts of blind mailings. I am convinced they got my info from the previous dealer warranty company somehow and that includes some info on the car and date warranty ended

    Buyer be aware!!!

  • RD Fyr

    Tried to get me today got Max down to 150 down and 70 a month for 18 months for a 5 yr 100,000 mile warranty on my Jetta, 120,000: Then he put the supervisor on the phone who told me he would give me a better deal if I pay up front, 1,500. when I told him about the other deal he told me I was a lier, I hung up and found this site. Thanks for the input.

  • Jason

    I was at work and i received the automated message stating my warranty was about to expire. A man came on the line and asked what was the make and model of my car. I have about 49,000 miles on my car, so i thought it was legit. I gave him my car info and began to ask him where he was calling from. He then hung up. I guess he hung up because I had under 100,000 miles on my car.

  • Robert Eckel

    I suspected a scam so I Googled and my suspicion was confirmed.
    If I’m bored I’ll call them tomorrow and screw with them for a while.
    Thanks for the warning.

  • Len

    Got the Warranty expiration notice in tghe mail from

    Automotive Warranty Advisros
    2660 Palm Aire Drive North
    Pompano Beach, Florida 33069

    Call the number on the document : 1-866-571-7977
    Was immediatly told to call: 1-866-571-7974. Was put on hold with my first call (over 15 minutes). On my second call I waited 30 minutes, just to get Andrew. I asked why I goy the notice, and he stated that it was “simple” my warranty was going to expire. When I got direct with him and said it was all a bunch of #$#2 he immediately hung up. These guys are certainly directed to dump any call where they feel that the called seems to be on to their game I may call back at a later time (knowing their game now) and have a lengthy conversation with them … revealing NO personal information and just playing Jimmy the Dunce. So glad I found this site.

  • http://[email protected] Kathleen Meyer

    2 Warranty notices received. The jokes on them. I bought a used car in 2005, I paid cash for it, it did not come with a warranty, and it was recently donated to the Purple Heart Organization. This has to be some type of ripoff or they would know I don’t own the car, and I never own cars that require warranty service. Blond yet, dumb no.

    I can’t get in touch with them to tell them to take my name off their mailing list, so I just rip up the car in little bitty pieces and feel sorry for whomever is getting paid minimum wage for mailing them out of FL to VA.

  • Ray

    I received a voice message from these people (recorded message) a couple weeks ago and it appeared to be about my daughter’s car. I knew immediately it was a scam since she didn’t have anything like this and had not dealt with this “company”. I help her with all her finances and know exactly what she has done that costs anything at all.
    Today she received a card, at my address, from them. It lists Florida, but no address and no web site, just an 866 number. Other than knowing it was a scam from the beginning and not doing anything about it, has anyone thought about where these scammers are getting their calling/mailing list?
    Also, since my home number is on the national do not call list and I have never done business with them, it was a violation for them to call my number. Although my daughter uses my mailing address for most of her mail, she has her own cell phone and has always used it, never my number. Also, in Washington state it is illegal for any profit-oriented company to make recorded sales pitch via a phone call. Only non-profits, government agencies, and political causes can use recordings legally.
    Can’t stop the mailings easily, but I am going to file a formal complaint with the Washington state Attorney General. It may take awhile for them to do anything, but it has worked for me in the past (that took about 1 year before the company was put out of business and fined).

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  • Deb

    I’ve been getting these types of calls from an unknown bubusiness. My caller ID picked up the number the first tthe first time they called. We were not home so a strange message was left on our answering machine. It was odvious that is was a audimated call. We tried to call the number back but was unablt to put the call through. The second time I answered a call from Florida, the same audimated words came and when I put #2 to clear up by “warranty” issues, a person answered the phone without an interduction or anything. He when said “I need your cra make, modle and year”….Thats it! I said that I had hust bought me car and what the hell was this all about. And then there was silance. Nothing. He was still on the line but said nothing. I said “Hello….” more then once and then hung up the phone. This has to be a scam. The same audimated call came again today but this time…caller ID didn’t have a number…big surprise.

  • Richard

    I as well had some of the same experiences that most of you encountered with this same postcard and company. I called up the company to find out about this “really good deal” of a warranty they wanted to offer me. When the first guy I spoke to didn’t seem to know much of anything to answer my questions, a supervisor quickly came on. He was rude just like the first person I dealt with. I had an idea ahead of time that this was too good to be true but hey, nothing wrong in just inquiring,right? I was told that if I didn’t accept this deal before hanging up, I would be ineligible to have it at a later time. These people were were pushy to get me to sign up right away and wanted alot of personal information. Also, there was no way I could have anything sent to me by mail and they wouldn’t even send written details to my email address to explain what is covered on this warranty. Needless to say, I realized it was a scam and just hung up before losing alot of money. This company is not for real and is nothing more than a big joke!!!

  • Bob Morrison

    I just received the notice in the mail (about the 10 time). I have never responded to their notice. My experience was a telemarketer call. For about 6 months I have been receiving telemarketer calls in the evening and as soon as I hear the recording (sometimes warranty expiration other times lowere credit rates) I hang up. These calls are strange because the prefix on the caller is 5 (i.e. 5-062-221-8232) instead of i. I have filed complaints with the National Do Not Call registry but they just use a different number, but it always begins with 5. On one occassion I pressed 1 to talk to a representative. As soon as he answered he wanted my VIN and mileage. I said I wanted him to give me the info on the vehicle they are calling about. He said I needed to provide the info. I told him I would not provide any info and he should tell me which vehicle was involved. He said I should watch the tone of my voice. I asked who he was and he said Nathan. I said “No where are you calling from?” and he said NY. I said “No, what company?” and he said Warranty Advisors. When I asked to speak to a supervisor he hung up on me.

  • http://berkeleyscot.wordpress.com Margaret Tong

    That's interesting that Bob Morrison was asked to' watch the tone of his voice.' Recently, I've been told by scam telemarketers on the phone that I 'need to learn to listen when I'm being spoken to on the phone,' and also “Why did you press #1, you B#$%H!”

    WOW!

    These scammers need to teach their telemarkets some manners, otherwise, they really ARE going to lose business!

  • sessy

    These people are scam artist trying to get u to give information over the phone for cars that u do not even have.

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  • Katie

    I just received a call from “the automotive division” telling my VIN# was red flagged and would be deleted from the system today, so they wanted to offer me a warranty at 0% interest, no towing or rental fees, $0 premium & wanted to tell me what my payments would be. I stayed on to see what they had to offer & the supervisor came on. I told them I would need to speak with my husband about it and she said “oh, okay I'll hold” and I said, “no, he's out of town and he'll be calling me this afternoon”. She replied “oh, well, I'll hold and you go ahead and call him.” I explained to her my husband is at his hunting camp and there are no phones, I have to wait for him to call me (knowing there would be no call back number to accept this offer later). Sure enough, she then asks me if its MY car & why I would need to call my husband. :) I kindly told her yes, its my car, but my husband and I don't make any financial decisions without consulting each other. She then told me there is no way to hold this call open, its computer generated, so I'd be missing out on this wonderful offer. I said “yep, I guess I will have to” and she hung up on me! Nice, huh? I would love nothing better than to get HER home number and waste HER time trying to steal from money from HER.

    I also had a call a year or two ago from a different, less convincing company, where the guy asked me what kind of marriage I had if I couldn't even make a decision on my own? He kept on trying to make me feel like some kind of mis-treated wife. I could see how that would work with some women who aren't as comfortable with where they are at the time. Its a good ploy….but buyer beware. Anyway, he got real ugly! Basically, there are no deals that are today only but they won't give you any information about who they are and what their product really is. ALWAYS get it in writing!!!!!!!

  • nancy

    thank you for the information. The AWA just send me my third and final notice. I called and they wanted my personal information. I questioned them because they should already know the make and model of my car….if they know my warranty expired. What can I do to press my point to the BBB?
    By the way, they got no information and I called my dealership and confirmed my warranty is just fine…

  • Ree

    Got notice in mail for same. I knew it was a scam, as my car is out of warranty being a 1998. I haven't shredded yet, but I didn't waste my time calling either.

  • KNOWS BETTER

    Got this in mail. Knew it was a scam as my car is out of warranty, SHAME, SHAME, SOME PEOPLE HAVE NONE AND NO HEART!

  • danny714

    i took my car to a shop and they took care of me but they took two weeks to pay the shop . im having transmission problems again an now im scare

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  • zed

    i gave these people my name and my phone number and email.. are they going to charge me somehow? or fraud me?

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    Just don't give them your credit card information. Worst case now, they hound you a bit on the phone and via email. But if they have your card information, they take a big chunk of money for next to nothing.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    Just don't give them your credit card information. Worst case now, they hound you a bit on the phone and via email. But if they have your card information, they take a big chunk of money for next to nothing.

  • Jnieves115

    I possible got scamed what do I do?

  • ellie

    for sure for sure…..I M FINDING OUT THE HARD WAY…. EVERY TIME A SERVICE IS NEEDED ON THE VEHICLE, GUESS WHAT IT ISN’T COVERED, YET THEY SELL THE COVERAGE STATEING IT HAS BUMPER TO BUMPER COVERAGE……SOOO NOT TRUE

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