Comments on: Something out of a nightmare http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/ ...politics, pictures, pugs and all that jazz Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: karoli http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-38096 karoli Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:03:30 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/#comment-38096 Doug, And tonight we hear that Cho was deemed 'mentally ill' and was released to outpatient treatment. This is the problem with the whole system -- Cho was MILD compared to some who are released to outpatient treatment. Why? Because mental health services are systematically stripped from the state and federal budget, so there's no opportunity to monitor and/or stabilize them. Doug,

And tonight we hear that Cho was deemed ‘mentally ill’ and was released to outpatient treatment. This is the problem with the whole system — Cho was MILD compared to some who are released to outpatient treatment. Why? Because mental health services are systematically stripped from the state and federal budget, so there’s no opportunity to monitor and/or stabilize them.

]]> By: Doug http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-38073 Doug Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:39:07 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/#comment-38073 Corretion to prior post -- it now appears Cho declined counseling services. Quote from his professor, Lucinda Roy: "I kept saying please go to counseling, I will take you to counseling, because he was so depressed.... I was told [by counseling] that you can't force anybody to go over ... so their hands were tied, too." Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18155081/ Corretion to prior post — it now appears Cho declined counseling services. Quote from his professor, Lucinda Roy: “I kept saying please go to counseling, I will take you to counseling, because he was so depressed…. I was told [by counseling] that you can’t force anybody to go over … so their hands were tied, too.”

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18155081/

]]> By: Doug http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-38072 Doug Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:56:59 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/04/17/something-out-of-a-nightmare/#comment-38072 The teacher who was interviewed by CNN and other sources have said that Cho was referred to mental health services and (I believe) that he did go at some point. (She also says she addressed the issue with the administration and that there was not enough in the writings to take any administrative action. She also says she tutored him for a year.) Without knowing what services Cho undertook and how, there is no way to know if those services failed him. Under existing law, there is no way the two writings posted on AOL, at least, would allow any administrative action beyond the attempts that those in the department apparently undertook. And... in our society, as incredibly tragic as the events and circumstances are, I don't think we want a situation where more compulsory action can be taken based upon troubled writing of this nature. The teacher who was interviewed by CNN and other sources have said that Cho was referred to mental health services and (I believe) that he did go at some point. (She also says she addressed the issue with the administration and that there was not enough in the writings to take any administrative action. She also says she tutored him for a year.)

Without knowing what services Cho undertook and how, there is no way to know if those services failed him. Under existing law, there is no way the two writings posted on AOL, at least, would allow any administrative action beyond the attempts that those in the department apparently undertook. And… in our society, as incredibly tragic as the events and circumstances are, I don’t think we want a situation where more compulsory action can be taken based upon troubled writing of this nature.

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