Megan Meier’s Tragic Death – Charge Lori Drew with Child Abuse

by Karoli on November 23, 2007 · 97 comments

While I was watching my beautiful 13-year old girl dance last Friday, the Megan Meier story hit the Internet.  Hard.  It hit me hard, too.  Right in the gut, because I walked in that 13-year old’s ADHD depressed shoes many years ago and could feel what she felt, just reading the third-hand accounts. 

Long story short:  In 2006, Mom of an ex-friend of 13-year old Megan creates a persona of a good looking boy (16-year old “Josh”) on MySpace in order to discover what Megan is writing about her daughter.  After a few weeks of back and forth commenting, fakeboy “Josh” writes ugly comments to Megan.  The last comment allegedly reads like this:

“Everybody in O’Fallon knows how you are. You are a bad person and everybody hates you. Have a shitty rest of your life. The world would be a better place without you.”

15 minutes later, 13-year old Megan hanged herself in her closet.  She died the following day.  Steve Pokin at the St. Charles Journal has a comprehensive account of  the sequence of events.  Related police reports are here, BlogHer has some commentary here, and the comments posted on BlueMerle expose the level of outrage felt around the blogosphere.  I am no exception.

Lori Drew is lower than the scum on the bottom of a sewer. 

She is not only an unfit parent; she’s the worst kind of parent — the hovering nanny-watcher helicopter type that Liz writes about — who not only stifles her own child but everyone around her, too.  Micromanaging, vindictive and fretful, she was only out to protect her own “precious” at the expense of everyone else.  As far as I’m concerned, she is a lowlife who should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  Only, it looks like there is no law that applies.  WTF?  Not only that, but criminal and civil charges are pending against the Meiers for hacking up a foosball table they were storing for the Drews until Christmas.

Yep, you read that right.  The only criminal charges pending are against the Meiers.  Lori Drew is completely unrepentant.  From one of the police reports filed:

According to Drew “somehow” other “my space” users were able to access the fake male profile and Megan found out she had been duped. Drew stated she knew “arguments” had broken out between Megan and others on “my space”. Drew felt this incident contributed to Megan’s suicide but she did not feel “as guilty” because at the funeral she found out “Megan had tried to commit suicide before.”

The report goes on to say that she was upset because the neighborhood had turned against her after discovering her involvement.  Well, duh.  By the way, this report was filed in connection with her attempts to pay a post-funeral visit to the Meier family on Thanksgiving weekend exactly one year ago and the Meiers refusing to open the door or speak to them, with the Drews “banging on the door” despite Ron Meier’s request that they leave his property.

A supposed ex-friend of Megan’s has posted a counterpoint, reproduced here (original post here), describing her as a drama queen, hypersensitive and argumentative. Many parts of the post ring true to me. It’s entirely possible this all was true. She was a child struggling with a weight problem, peer issues, depression and ADHD. Been there, done that. She changed schools because she had been bullied, and had a one-day-friends-one-day-enemies relationship with the Drews’ daughter.

Megan’s struggle with ADHD and depression is at the heart of the matter.

For the benefit of Lori Drews out there, let me explain some things about ADHD and depression:

ADHD, especially untreated ADHD, can lead to depression.  Megan Meier had been diagnosed with depression as early as the 3rd grade and also had ADHD.  It isn’t clear as to whether she was being medicated or otherwise treated for the ADHD, but I’m assuming there was some ongoing work in this area since the parents appear to be pro-active and were concerned enough with her peer issues to have her transferred to a different middle school.

 ADHD also involves sensory issues, making minor things feel major to them.  In earlier childhood, this tends to appear as noise sensitivity, light sensitivity, sensitivity to sudden movements, and anxiety.  ADHDers react to these stimuli in different ways.  Boys tend to be hyperactive.  Girls, not so much.  They tend to be the daydreamers, the ones who retreat, or conversely, are dramatic.  They’re the ones who cry at the drop of a hat and then are called crybabies by their classmates.  I can remember sitting through movies that other people thought were funny  crying my eyes out because the combination of sound, slapstick, light and what I perceived as injury to the main characters physically hurt me.  No one could understand why I didn’t think it was funny.  It wasn’t funny because it hurt.  It’s no secret to anyone who knows me that I do not go to the movies.  I feel constrained, claustrophobic and captive.  This is how some kids with ADHD feel in their own bodies, especially when the hormones rage.

In adolescence, that sensitivity can turn to peer rejection and emotional bankruptcy.  An ADHDer who lives in the present with no sense of the future or the past measures their worth on that moment in time.  This is, I’m sure, why “MeganHaditComing” describes her as a drama queen “freaking out down the hall or screaming at someone for stabbing her in the back or not listening…”  In addition, Megan had weight problems, which might as well be death to a 13-year old’s self-esteem. 

Where “MeganHaditComing” has it wrong is here:  She didn’t ‘have it coming’.  She was a middle school kid (and a beautiful one, by the way, weight or no weight) dealing with inexplicable rejection by her fantasy boyfriend.  And not just “I don’t want to see you or chat or comment on your MySpace” rejection, but mean, nasty, bullying comments designed to cut her right to the quick.  This is intolerable when it’s done by peers, but the real crime here is that it was an adult, fully 35 years her senior who was aware of her depression and ADHD and took advantage of her anyway.

Here’s a news flash for Lori Drew: Megan’s final words to her mother were this: “You’re supposed to be my mom! You’re supposed to be on my side!” Those words could just as easily be applied to you, Lori Drew. “You’re supposed to be an adult! You’re supposed to protect kids, not abuse them online or otherwise.”

Impersonating, stalking and bullying a child online is child abuse

If Lori Drew had touched Megan inappropriately, she would be charged with child sexual abuse. If Lori Drew had taken a picture of Megan getting out of the shower and posted it on the Internet, she would be prosecuted for creating child pornography. If Lori Drew had hit Megan, she would be charged with assault and physical child abuse.

Lori Drew did none of those things.  Still, she abused Megan and took advantage of the MySpace/Internet culture of anonymity to do it.  She invented a boy who seduced Megan into thinking she was beautiful, lovable, ACCEPTABLE.  And then she tore it all out from under her without so much as a tear.  This is the part I truly don’t understand.  How can a 48-year old woman and the mother of a 13-year old girl engage in such an intentionally cruel and hurtful act?  Why didn’t she just write a good-bye comment and delete “Josh’s” profile?  Why did she feel it necessary to post polls saying Megan was a slut, fat, ugly? 

Only Lori Drew can answer those questions, and she chooses to justify her actions via police reports and accusations toward the Meier family.  Only Lori Drew can look at herself in the mirror every day and continue to believe she is somehow not guilty of “loading the gun”, as Ron Meier says.

One family destroyed, divorced, devastated.  Another family moves on, blaming everyone (including the victim), admitting nothing.

As a society, is this what we want to tolerate?  Vanessa says it’s the world we live in.  I disagree.  It’s not my world.  In my world, people who take advantage of children’s vulnerability and disability should be charged with stalking, child abuse, and involuntary manslaughter, because if we do not hold people accountable for intentional malicious acts against children we don’t deserve to have them.

Hug your kids.  Watch their moods, help them overcome their challenges with positive and sometimes unusual solutions.  I wish Megan had felt better about who she was and what she was overcoming.  But she didn’t, and Lori Drew had a DUTY to understand that, not exacerbate it.

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  • Colin

    This is a very controversial story that has more then one side to it. Society has a way of pointing fingers; generally these fingers are pointed towards the direct cause of what happened. This works for murders, hit-and-runs, and homicides, but people have to remember that Megan’s death wasn’t a direct result of Lori’s influence (although what she did was morally wrong on many levels). There were events that led to her suicide and those have to be considered.
    Parenting has to be accounted for when looking at a situation like this. Had her upbringing been better this fiasco would have never happened. This is a complex event, and I personally believe that fault lays with everyone associated with the whole situation.
    I am sorry for your loss Mrs. Meier; I only wish such events never had occurred.

  • Phil Gray

    Though your words are true Colin, there are three sides to every story, one must consider the time line.

    When you look at the time period between the final email and the terrible result.. you find the trigger.

    Lori Drew and her actions (whether she typed that email personally or not)appear to be the trigger.

    Having a 13 year old ADHD granddaughter I understand the complexity involved in these special children’s upbringing.

    For one to try and bring attention to her complex upbringing appears to be the act of smoke screening to try and redirect the attention away from the guilty parties… The Drews.

    Everyone has the right to communicate through Email. We do not have the right to create fictitious persons in order to mislead and do emotional harm.

    Lori Drew knew Megan was ADHD and choose to go ahead even knowing Megan had emotional stability problems.

    I am left wondering two things Colin.

    1. Have YOU personally raised an ADHD child?

    2. Are you connected to the Drew family in some way?

    Phil Gray.. Florida

  • Jackie

    I cannot believe that Lori Drew will not be charged for anything. Bulling is bulling whether is is done in person, on the phine or via the internet. Lori Drew and her daughter are BOTH responsible for Megan’s death, and should be held accountable for it. Lori Drew is a monster, and has taught her daughter to be the same way. And to continue to harass Megan’s family shows what kind of evil lives in this world. If Lori Drew and her family fear for their lives…GOOD! Boohoo, Lori had to close her business, boohoo a foosball table was destroyed. It seems to me that Lori Drew and her family place a foosball table of greater value than Megan’s life. UNREAL. May God be with the Meier family and help them since the police or any other “human” official will. May the Drew family rot in hell!

  • andrea

    my kid was hurt by adults, the system said she chose to be hurt by associateing with them. wtf. luckily my kid survived

  • Lonnie

    Megan would not want her legacy to be one of hate and revenge. Where she is now she would most certainly want everyone to forgive and use our time to help others who might be having a hard time in this life.

  • http://MeganMeier charlie

    After reading what the Meier family has been through, it is hard not to recognize that what Lori Drew had done is what was responsible for Megan’s death. However, I feel for the Meier family and what they must be going through. Did they ever notice any emotional behavior concerns with Megan? There had to already be some present even if it is hard to admit. That still does not dismiss that Lori Drew had bullied Megan eenough to finally bring her to this tragic end. She should be placed in front of a mirror and ask herself does she feel good about she did? Are you proud of yourself Dear Ms. Drew? How could you live with yourself knowing that you were aable to push a fragile young child of God over the edge? Do you think your children can ever look at you the same way? You deserve no respect and it looks like your neighborhood is giving you what you deserve. My final question to you – How long will it be before you are pushed over the edge?

  • http://aol.com sarge

    I have heard some crazy people but Lori Drew yakes the cake!! I just wonder if the situation was reversed would she want to talk to the person who caused 98% of this murder. Doubt it!!!! She needs to move and let all the decent people reclaim their normal way of life.

  • Cherie

    I think Lori Drew should hang herself! We all know that the world would definitely be a better place without disgusting people like her… I hope that she lives in shame for the rest of her worthless life.

  • JenniM

    The question is?why hasn?t Lori Drew been charged. Missouri has a stalking law that fits this crime that provides for felony penalties as well as a harassment law. There are also civil claims for intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress, wrongful death (remember the OJ civil trial?), libel and in addition, the use of the internet also brings federal crimes into play. It is criminal that the enforcement authorities have not acted quickly to charge this woman with the crimes she has committed and we can all hope that the family of the girl immediately commences a civil suit and attaches all property interest of the responsible family.

    XXXVIII Mo.Rev.Stat. Sec. 565.225 Crime of stalking–definitions–penalties.

    Section 225 Crime of stalking–definitions–penalties.
    565.225. 1. As used in this section, the following terms shall mean:
    (1) “Course of conduct”, a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts, which may include electronic or other communications, over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct”. Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests;
    (2) “Credible threat”, a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause physical injury to, a person and may include a threat communicated to the targeted person in writing, including electronic communications, by telephone, or by the posting of a site or message that is accessible via computer;
    (3) “Harasses”, to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that serves no legitimate purpose, that would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress, and that actually causes substantial emotional distress to that person.
    2. Any person who purposely and repeatedly harasses or follows with the intent of harassing another person commits the crime of stalking.
    3. Any person who purposely and repeatedly harasses or follows with the intent of harassing or harasses another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or serious physical injury, commits the crime of stalking.
    3. Any person who purposely and repeatedly harasses or follows with the intent of harassing or harasses another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or serious physical injury, commits the crime of aggravated stalking.
    4. The crime of stalking shall be a class A misdemeanor for the first offense. A second or subsequent offense within five years of a previous finding or plea of guilt against any victim shall be a class D felony.
    5. The crime of aggravated stalking shall be a class D felony for the first offense. A second or subsequent offense within five years of a previous finding or plea of guilt against any victim shall be a class C felony.
    6. Any law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person he or she has probable cause to believe has violated the provisions of this section.
    (L. 1993 H.B. 476 & 194 1, A.L. 2002 S.B. 969, et al.)
    XXXVIII Mo.Rev.Stat. Sec. 565.090 Harassment.

    Section 090 Harassment.
    565.090. 1. A person commits the crime of harassment if for the purpose of frightening or disturbing another person, he
    (1) Communicates in writing or by telephone a threat to commit any felony; or
    (2) Makes a telephone call or communicates in writing and uses coarse language offensive to one of average sensibility; or
    (3) Makes a telephone call anonymously; or
    (4) Makes repeated telephone calls.
    2. Harassment is a class A misdemeanor.
    (L. 1977 S.B. 60)

    XXXV Mo.Rev.Stat. Sec. 509.210 Libel and slander, averments–defenses.

    Section 210 Libel and slander, averments–defenses.
    509.210. In an action for libel or slander, it shall not be necessary to state in the petition any extrinsic facts, for the purpose of showing the application to the plaintiff of the defamatory matter out of which the claim arose, but it shall be sufficient to state, generally, that the same was published or spoken concerning the plaintiff; and if such allegation be not controverted in the answer, it shall not be necessary to prove it on the trial; in other cases it shall be necessary. The defendant may, in his answer, allege both the truth of the matter charged as defamatory and any mitigating circumstances admissible in evidence to reduce the amount of damages; and whether he prove the justification or not, he may give in evidence the mitigating circumstance.
    (L. 1943 p. 353 53)

  • Ellen

    Lori, I just want to know how you live with yourself being a murderer and all. You have also destroyed your own daughters’ life.

  • Ellen

    Lori, I just want to know how you live with yourself being a murderer and all. You have also destroyed your own daughters’ life. How would you like to hear that the world would be a better place without YOU!!!

  • Ellen

    Colin, Are you for real!? Do you even have any children?! I am so sick and tired of people who think they are experts placing the blame on the victims! I think you are Lori pretending to be Colin!!

  • Charles

    I just caught this story on
    “Sixty Minutes.” My condolences
    to the parents, family and
    friends of this beautiful girl,
    Megan. I grieve with you.

    It is impossible to know how
    anyone could be so devious as to
    harass a child to the point of
    suicide, but unfortunately the
    world is filled with bad people
    and Mrs. Drew appears to be one
    of them. I do believe in karma.
    Assuming Mrs. Drew is as corrupt
    as has been reported, she and
    those in her life will pay
    dearly for her actions.

  • http://sleekbb@hotmail.com Sleek

    Lori is a pyschopathic cunt who will rot in hell for what she did

  • Anonymous

    I read on Lori blog that she let her daughter have a MySpace account because everybody else did. Was not her exact words but similar. SO WHAT IF EVERYBODY HAS ONE. If you were a good mother you would of not let her have one. I have four chilren ages from 19 to 4. They have no MySpace account and never will. There is nothing good about MySpace

  • http://www.myspace.com/ragemanchoo Ryan Thompson

    If anyone would like to write a “review” of the Drew’s business, Drew Advantage, you can do so at:
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/PsQxK7u59fv1kPBVn7cvsw

  • http://www.myspace.com/ragemanchoo Ryan Thompson

    By the way, apparently Lori is now denying know anything about what happened. Riiiiight… crock of sh*t.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ragemanchoo Ryan Thompson

    LOL @ the anonymous lady saying she’ll never let her kids have a myspace account, even the ones who are fully grown. Computer did something mom didn’t like so she’s going to try to hide it now. Guess what. The 19-year-old already has an account. I guarantee it.

  • danipebbles

    Hearing Lori Drew tell her story – all she does is blame the victim. She won’t take any responsibility for what she has done. How does an adult blame a child? Especially one with emotional problems. Didn’t Lori Drew have anything more relevant going on in her life than to be involved in teenagers gossip? LORI DREW – YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!!

  • kathy

    karma will make right what the laws cannot

  • Issac

    What about Ashley Grills? Don’t forget that she’s 18 years old adult, and she’s part of this mind game that drove 13 years old kid to her grave. We also need to teach Ashley Grills that her action will not be forgiven.

  • jill

    Of course, who is not going to be affected by this tragedy? The adults were despicable as was the teen who took part in this cruelty. However, if each of us looks within ourselves, we are likely to find some ugliness from the past that we are ashamed of, or even some current ugliness. It is very easy to go after people that perpetrate cruelty. But it is very hard to objectively look within ourselves and see if we, too, are guilty of some kind of ugliness. On another note, parents need to get a life and let their kids live their own lives. It is pathetic when parents have no life and interfere in everything that their children do. Most of us who are adults now were able to enjoy growing up without our parents polluting every last thing we did. Lastly, the Internet basically stinks. Kids need to have real fun, and not imaginary fun.

  • Diana

    We live in a world where teachers are having sex with our children; celebrities are flashing their privates during halftime (with young children watching!); toddlers are being stuffed into crates and thrown into rivers; and a very large percentage of this country’s convicted child molesters can’t be found through the registration system that is now in place. Our legal system simply can’t keep pace with the sheer number of crimes against children, and this case is no exception. Lori Drew is another example of a generation of adults who are selfish and immature, and our children are the ones who are and will pay for it in hundreds of ways. How did this generation get this way? I see it everywhere, everyday. It isn’t fair to blame law enforcement for the struggle; they are simply overwhelmed by the acts of a depraved generation. Our local law enforcement workers are underpaid and overworked, and bless them for continuing the fight!

  • Pam

    To the parent who thinks her children don’t have a My Space account I have two words
    Public Library.My library offers computer
    use free,and I see a lot of young people going
    on to My Space.To others who read this,go to Find A Grave,Put in Megan Meier and leave notes,flowers,etc.Megan RIP

  • Vicki H

    This woman should be held accountable in some way, either financially or thru the courts. What kind of 40 something year old woman would do such a thing? She obviously needs mental help and her child/children should be removed from her home. I read now that the neighborhood where both she and the Meier family lives is ostracizing her. Geez, and she wonders why? She should be thrown out of the town and everywhere else she chooses to take up roots. She is so low. She obviously is a nut case and a very immature one at that. She sickens me.

  • Frank

    Why isn’t anybody looking at Megan’s parents? Why was this teen depressed like this? Sure, what Lori did was stupid, childish and dumb. But killing yourself over what some guy you never even meant said is even dumber.

  • Frank

    Why isn’t anybody looking at Megan’s parents? Why was this teen depressed like this? Sure, what Lori did was stupid, childish and dumb. But killing yourself over what some guy you never even met said is even dumber.

  • Vicki

    Yup samo samo blame the victims. Depression is a chemical embalance and not a parent problem. Frank- you should know your facts before you point fingers at parents that lost their daughter to the hands of an adult that knew she had a depression problem. Give me a fing break point the finger where it belongs not at mom and dad who lost their daughter. people like you make me sick. My heart hurts for these parents and this poor young girl that was tormented by a full grown adult to the point that she took her own life.

  • Linda

    I have a 17 year old child who has suffered from depression since he was eight years old. Unless you live this life you cannot possibly identify with the temendous struggle we as a family face(Frank). There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t pray for strength to help us through. The tears and frustration are endless….the pain deep. As a parent of a child like this you are forced to become their ‘everything’. Their best friend (and many, many times their only friend), their confidant, their life coach, their therapist, their doctor and their hero. There are no days off, no vacations. And yes, we do get tired. There comes a point in their lives when you HAVE to step back, let them go and hope they can start to figure some of this out on their own. There comes a time when we have to stop monitoring every movement, every conversation and every encounter. And that’s when the intense praying sets in. I hope you never have to feel (Frank) the fear that we as parents of kids like this feel EVERY time they close the door to their bedroom or even leave the house on their own. The fear we feel every time we hear a thump, bump or unusual movement coming from their room on a ‘bad’ day. It’s very painful to live every day with the knowledge that at any time it could be the last day that you talk, hold, or love your child….because they make take their life at any time…AND the knowledge of knowing there is NOTHING you can do to change it or take their pain away.
    My prayers are not only with Megans parents but with Megan as well. I pray that she has finally found the peace that alluded her throughout her short life. God Bless you Megan.
    And to all of you who criticize the Meier’s and question where they were or why they didn’t do more…STOP. I’m certain this was one of those times that they as parents made the decision to let her try and figure it out for herself. And now they are paying unfairly for their decision. What a terrible price to pay.
    And finally, I pray for myself and my inability to pray for Lori Drew. Her behavior in this situation is nothing short of criminal and her morals and integrity..despicable. She is paying the price as well.

  • Frank

    Your follow up comments don’t surprise me. I never said Lori didn’t do anything wrong, she acted like a Child. But Megan’s parents have acted just as childish. By leaving a smashed foosball table in their driveway? By outing them in front of the whole country and destroying their lives as well? Seriously, if Megan was so easily set off by some comments on Myspace, her actions were inevitable. How long before a real boyfriend broke up with her, or she doesn’t get turned down for a job etc. You’re so quick to jump to her defense and call me a insensitive, but life is full of disappointments and hardships, and there are cruel people out there. You have to be strong enough to deal it with.

  • Susan

    I agree that Lori Drew should be held responsible for Megans death I cant believe that an adult would do something like this and not feel the least remorse. This is a woman who should not be allowed to be around children including her own. Hopefully they havent been damaged as badly as she is. I have faith that if the law refuses to act that God will evenually give her what she deserves.

  • Charles Darwin

    It’s survival of the fittest out there people. If Megan couldn’t hack it, she wasn’t fit.

  • Samuel

    I feel terrible about the loss of Megan. The problem I’m having is that her parents knew she was depressed and fragile. Why didn’t they have her in therapy and on medication? Why did they let have a myspace account? Why are they not being held accountable for their part in all of this?

  • http://drumsnwhistles.com karoli

    To those asking about Megan’s parents’ responsibility:

    Until that day when everything blew up, the MySpace account had been a source of joy for Megan. It was only that day, when messages started coming in that were ugly and mean, that it became a problem. And when it did, Megan’s mother told her to turn off the computer and stay off of it until she could review the messages. Of course, what came next was tragic.

    Some folks think she shouldn’t have been allowed on MySpace at all. I disagree. She was being monitored and as far as her parents knew, all was well and it would have been, if someone who got the password from Lori Drew had not decided to turn Megan upside down by using the “Josh” account to bully her.

  • http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com Danny Vice

    While the Megan Meier case seems outrageous and unique, it isn’t unique. Hundreds of cases of egregious and heinous acts go on every day with the same excuses out of our lawmakers.

    One such other case….The case of Nikki Catsouras, is a classic example of disgusting, hateful activity against innocent victims, while our lawmakers excuse themselves from enacting laws to prevent this.

    The excuse lawmakers use to let themselves off the hook stem from the growth of the Internet and how fast it’s changing. This is a sham.

    Chat rooms, message boards, instant messengers and email have been in existence for far over a decade now. While the software used to transmit messages changes slightly, the basic essence of using the Internet to send a message is largely the same. Is a decade or two long enough to establish some basic decency laws in regards to Internet usage?

    I’ve posted the Nikki Catsouras story along with many details about the Megan Meier case so the inactivity out of our lawmakers towards these types of cases can be clearly seen.

    Those who are interested in learning about cases like Megan’s and Nikki’s case are encouraged to drop by and comment on them if you like. I have a couple of polls set up as well. Danny Vice would like to hear your point of view.

    Public awareness of the problem and discussions about possible solutions are the best way to pressure elected officials into action instead of excuse making.

    I invite you to come by and share your opinion.

    Danny Vice
    http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com

  • Phil Gray

    Anyone that wants to turn blame (some or all) on Megan’s parents (FRANK) should have to spend six months working with ADHD children. (I have)

    The object is to help them live a normal life and to associate with others in a normal way. That would include email and if chosen “My Space”.

    Unfortunately there are sick and twisted predatory people out there prowling on the week and innocent (Charles Darwin). These predatory personalities create fictitious characters (Charles Darwin) to hide so that they can do harm. Knowing they are wrong and afraid to show their real faces.

    As for your theory Charles Darwin… as a former large cat handler (Tigers, leopards etc.) I fully understand the laws of the wild jungle. But our society is NOT a wild jungle (or at least.. it is not supposed to be.) We have rules to live by. I wonder if you had been one of the victims in those Colorado Churches yesterday if someone would stand over your dead body, shake their head and say,,, “oh well, survival of the fittest?”

    Again I am left with this question… how are you two (Frank and Charles Darwin) related to the Drews… Family.. friends.. Them?

    Phil Gray (my real name)… Florida

  • Frank

    Phil,

    Darwin is right. If it wasn’t this, what else could it of been? What happens to Megan when a real boy breaks up with her. Do you blame him for the suicide? What if she fails a test in school and kills her self, do you blame the teacher? What if she got a job at McDonalds and got fired, do you blame the manager? In no way, am I defending the actions of Lori Drew, but the way people on the internet have been calling for her head is out of control. So many people on here won’t even listen to reason, and people like me get labeled as insensitive. I think its important to step back examine the whole situation for what it really was.

  • Phil Gray

    Frank,

    This blog-site was intended to discuss these particular events, NOT ALL HAPPENINGS IN GENERAL. At least that is how I understand it (please forgive me if I am wrong)

    This WAS NOT a real boyfriend… though Megan was led to believe It WAS prompted by actions of deception directed by Lori Drew. This was a trap…

    If you and DARWIN (whoever they really are) want to discuss Laws of the jungle or even better yet, strategy of JUNGLE WARFARE where traps are laid in order to surprise a stronger adversary,.. then I would be glad to engage…

    Frank… you need to step back and see the whole picture for what it was.. a physiological trap to do harm to an ADHD thirteen year old child whom Lori Drew knew was dealing with the effects of ADHD.

    You and DARWIN are welcome to deliver all the smoke screening you want… the owner of this blog site has allowed an open format… But know that I will respond to anyone who tries to redirect others views from the truth..

    I have NO connection to the Meier’s family, I have never met them.. spoke to them nor had any communication of any kind with them. I am just the grandfather of two ADHD grandchildren of Megan’s age and have been touched by the story..

    I do NOT want any physical harm to come to anyone in the Drew family… I DO want to see Lori Drew spend time behind bars… Those are the rules of our society..
    An adult knowingly help create an ongoing lie that led to a child’s demise..

    These are ONLY MY OPINIONS from my view and I do NOT claim to know all truths… But my opinions ARE educated hands-on opinions… But I do know there IS a GOD and GOD knews all truths and Lori Drew and her supportive friends and family will meet their maker sooner or later… Thank God for her.. God is more forgiving than men.

    Phil Gray… Florida

  • http://drumsnwhistles.com karoli

    Phil, Frank and Darwin,

    Whether Lori Drew actually wrote the series of messages that led Megan down the path to her suicide is in question. However, she had control of the password and account information and as an adult, should have shut down that account rather than sanctioning and continuing it over a span of six weeks.

    How on earth would she ever have been able to get out of it without causing Megan heartache?

    I believe that she did not intend for anything to happen that would have caused Megan’s suicide. On the other hand, she was the adult and should have known better than to even consider, much less implement, a deception that was dead-ended and cruel. Why invent a boyfriend? Why not just a girl who was a friend of a myspace friend? The boyfriend ruse was clearly intended to get Megan’s attention and gain her trust rapidly.

    Like Phil, I am not, nor have I ever, advocated any harm coming to the Drew family. In fact, I’m concerned for Lori Drew’s daughter and her forced isolation from friends and others as a result of the threats being made against her. This post and the others I’ve written have called for legal recourse against Lori Drew’s actions, which she cleverly avoided by spreading around the login information and being fortunate enough to walk right in between the lines.

    If there is no legal recourse, I certainly do not advocate vigilante justice. That’s even more wrong than the original act.

    However, society has the right to exclude her as a result of her actions, and that’s what is happening now.

    As to those who say that Megan’s parents were irresponsible about letting her on MySpace when they knew she was fragile, I will reiterate: Until the day that everything blew up, that interaction was a positive thing in Megan’s life, not negative. And when it did blow up, it did it fast and furious, which is typical of flame wars in online communities. It happened randomly, with no rhyme or reason, and I’m sure it devastated Megan. I wish she would not have acted on her suicidal impulse, but she did, and yes, no one tied the knot on the noose for her. However, to discover after the fact that the instigator was a supposedly responsible parent is just about beyond comprehension.

  • Phil Gray

    Thank you Karoli..

    Well put ..

    I wish we could turn back the clock, have Megan’s life back and all still keep the life lesson… But we can’t.

    I feel certain in my heart that Megan is looking down at us, saddened and wishing that we would let this go…

    I wish we could too. But we must prevent these actions from reoccurring and the best way I know is to show people examples of other people’s cruelty and the results… History is the best teacher of actions and the resulting reactions, cause and effect.

    I wish all of you A Happy Holiday Season and my Special Thoughts and Prayers go out to all involved

    Phil Gray… Florida

  • erik

    But I say unto you: Love your enemies and pray for those persecuting you.

    Let us not now in our anger indulge ourselves in an orgy of outrage and hate but instead let us pray that the two families might forgive each other’s trespasses so that there might again be peace and concord between them. Let us loose ourselves of our self righteousness so that we might know that we all are sinners who only by the grace of the LORD do we walk upon this earth and that we all deserve nothing and that we ourselves all have at one time or another caused injustices to befall others. Let us not follow the examples of those who, in their eagerness to pursue justice, cause injustices to fall upon others as Mrs Wells has done but instead let us follow the path that Christ has laid out before us; that of forgiveness and love. I beseech all of you let go of your anger and to find a more constructive and -dare I say- more Christian response to this tragedy that has fallen upon both families and upon their neighbours.

  • You bore me…..

    To Phil and Gail and Danny and all the others writing books on here,cut it a little shorter.I’m sure you have alot to say but I skip over them or stop reading them.Half of you start babbling on and say alot but say nothing.I found the best comments get right to the point and are 10 lines or less.

  • Phil Gray

    Dear you bore me,

    There are several simple tests for ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder). Most Psychiatrists can administer them. I suggest you try one.
    (5 lines, well within your attention span)

    Phil Gray… Florida

  • Phil Gray:you bore me….

    What’s wrong Mr Phil Grey did I hurt your feelings, maybe you shouldn’t post if you can’t handle criticism.Like I said you say alot but you say nothing.

  • http://drumsnwhistles.com karoli

    Looks like it’s time to close comments on this post.

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