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		<title>By: ADHD Report&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Megan Meier’s Tragic Death - Charge Lori Drew with Child Abuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADHD Report&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Megan Meier’s Tragic Death - Charge Lori Drew with Child Abuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dweitzReally interesting read I found today:She was a child struggling with a weight problem, peer issues, depression and ADHD. Been there, done that. She changed schools because she had been bullied, and had a one-day-friends-one-day-enemies relationship with the Drews’ daughter &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dweitzReally interesting read I found today:She was a child struggling with a weight problem, peer issues, depression and ADHD. Been there, done that. She changed schools because she had been bullied, and had a one-day-friends-one-day-enemies relationship with the Drews’ daughter &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: odd time signatures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LA Grand Jury Investigating Lori Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>odd time signatures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; LA Grand Jury Investigating Lori Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an interesting twist, LA prosecutors may be weighing whether to charge Lori Drew with fraud for her MySpace hoax of Megan Meier, reasoning that the crime occured inside their jurisdiction, since MySpace is headquartered in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an interesting twist, LA prosecutors may be weighing whether to charge Lori Drew with fraud for her MySpace hoax of Megan Meier, reasoning that the crime occured inside their jurisdiction, since MySpace is headquartered in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phil Gray:you bore me....</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gray:you bore me....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong Mr Phil Grey did I hurt your feelings, maybe you shouldn&#039;t post if you can&#039;t handle criticism.Like I said you say alot but you say nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong Mr Phil Grey did I hurt your feelings, maybe you shouldn&#8217;t post if you can&#8217;t handle criticism.Like I said you say alot but you say nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear you bore me,  

There are several simple tests for ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder). Most Psychiatrists can administer them.  I suggest you try one.
(5 lines, well within your attention span)

Phil Gray... Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear you bore me,  </p>
<p>There are several simple tests for ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder). Most Psychiatrists can administer them.  I suggest you try one.<br />
(5 lines, well within your attention span)</p>
<p>Phil Gray&#8230; Florida</p>
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		<title>By: You bore me.....</title>
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		<dc:creator>You bore me.....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Phil and Gail and Danny and all the others writing books on here,cut it a little shorter.I&#039;m sure you have alot to say but I skip over them or stop reading them.Half of you start babbling on and say alot but say nothing.I found the best comments get right to the point and are 10 lines or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Phil and Gail and Danny and all the others writing books on here,cut it a little shorter.I&#8217;m sure you have alot to say but I skip over them or stop reading them.Half of you start babbling on and say alot but say nothing.I found the best comments get right to the point and are 10 lines or less.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I say unto you: Love your enemies and pray for those persecuting you.

Let us not now in our anger indulge ourselves in an orgy of outrage and hate but instead let us pray that the two families might forgive each other&#039;s trespasses so that there might again be peace and concord between them. Let us loose ourselves of our self righteousness so that we might know that we all are sinners who only by the grace of the LORD do we walk upon this earth and that we all deserve nothing and that we ourselves all have at one time or another caused injustices to befall others. Let us not follow the examples of those who, in their eagerness to pursue justice, cause injustices to fall upon others as Mrs Wells has done but instead let us follow the path that Christ has laid out before us; that of forgiveness and love. I beseech all of you let go of your anger and to find a more constructive and -dare I say- more Christian response to this tragedy that has fallen upon both families and upon their neighbours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I say unto you: Love your enemies and pray for those persecuting you.</p>
<p>Let us not now in our anger indulge ourselves in an orgy of outrage and hate but instead let us pray that the two families might forgive each other&#8217;s trespasses so that there might again be peace and concord between them. Let us loose ourselves of our self righteousness so that we might know that we all are sinners who only by the grace of the LORD do we walk upon this earth and that we all deserve nothing and that we ourselves all have at one time or another caused injustices to befall others. Let us not follow the examples of those who, in their eagerness to pursue justice, cause injustices to fall upon others as Mrs Wells has done but instead let us follow the path that Christ has laid out before us; that of forgiveness and love. I beseech all of you let go of your anger and to find a more constructive and -dare I say- more Christian response to this tragedy that has fallen upon both families and upon their neighbours.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Karoli..

Well put ..

I wish we could turn back the clock, have Megan&#039;s life back and all still keep the life lesson... But we can&#039;t.

I feel certain in my heart that Megan is looking down at us, saddened and wishing that we would let this go...

I wish we could too.  But we must prevent these actions from reoccurring and the best way I know is to show people examples of other people&#039;s cruelty and the results...  History is the best teacher of actions and the resulting reactions, cause and effect.

I wish all of you A Happy Holiday Season and my Special Thoughts and Prayers go out to all involved

Phil Gray...  Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Karoli..</p>
<p>Well put ..</p>
<p>I wish we could turn back the clock, have Megan&#8217;s life back and all still keep the life lesson&#8230; But we can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I feel certain in my heart that Megan is looking down at us, saddened and wishing that we would let this go&#8230;</p>
<p>I wish we could too.  But we must prevent these actions from reoccurring and the best way I know is to show people examples of other people&#8217;s cruelty and the results&#8230;  History is the best teacher of actions and the resulting reactions, cause and effect.</p>
<p>I wish all of you A Happy Holiday Season and my Special Thoughts and Prayers go out to all involved</p>
<p>Phil Gray&#8230;  Florida</p>
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		<title>By: karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, Frank and Darwin,

Whether Lori Drew actually wrote the series of messages that led Megan down the path to her suicide is in question.  However, she had control of the password and account information and as an adult, should have shut down that account rather than sanctioning and continuing it over a span of six weeks.

How on earth would she ever have been able to get out of it without causing Megan heartache?  

I believe that she did not intend for anything to happen that would have caused Megan&#039;s suicide.  On the other hand, she was the adult and should have known better than to even consider, much less implement, a deception that was dead-ended and cruel.  Why invent a boyfriend?  Why not just a girl who was a friend of a myspace friend?  The boyfriend ruse was clearly intended to get Megan&#039;s attention and gain her trust rapidly.

Like Phil, I am not, nor have I ever, advocated any harm coming to the Drew family.  In fact, I&#039;m concerned for Lori Drew&#039;s daughter and her forced isolation from friends and others as a result of the threats being made against her.  This post and the others I&#039;ve written have called for legal recourse against Lori Drew&#039;s actions, which she cleverly avoided by spreading around the login information and being fortunate enough to walk right in between the lines.

If there is no legal recourse, I certainly do not advocate vigilante justice.  That&#039;s even more wrong than the original act.

However, society has the right to exclude her as a result of her actions, and that&#039;s what is happening now.

As to those who say that Megan&#039;s parents were irresponsible about letting her on MySpace when they knew she was fragile, I will reiterate:  Until the day that everything blew up, that interaction was a positive thing in Megan&#039;s life, not negative.  And when it did blow up, it did it fast and furious, which is typical of flame wars in online communities. It happened randomly, with no rhyme or reason, and I&#039;m sure it devastated Megan.  I wish she would not have acted on her suicidal impulse, but she did, and yes, no one tied the knot on the noose for her.  However, to discover after the fact that the instigator was a supposedly responsible parent is just about beyond comprehension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, Frank and Darwin,</p>
<p>Whether Lori Drew actually wrote the series of messages that led Megan down the path to her suicide is in question.  However, she had control of the password and account information and as an adult, should have shut down that account rather than sanctioning and continuing it over a span of six weeks.</p>
<p>How on earth would she ever have been able to get out of it without causing Megan heartache?  </p>
<p>I believe that she did not intend for anything to happen that would have caused Megan&#8217;s suicide.  On the other hand, she was the adult and should have known better than to even consider, much less implement, a deception that was dead-ended and cruel.  Why invent a boyfriend?  Why not just a girl who was a friend of a myspace friend?  The boyfriend ruse was clearly intended to get Megan&#8217;s attention and gain her trust rapidly.</p>
<p>Like Phil, I am not, nor have I ever, advocated any harm coming to the Drew family.  In fact, I&#8217;m concerned for Lori Drew&#8217;s daughter and her forced isolation from friends and others as a result of the threats being made against her.  This post and the others I&#8217;ve written have called for legal recourse against Lori Drew&#8217;s actions, which she cleverly avoided by spreading around the login information and being fortunate enough to walk right in between the lines.</p>
<p>If there is no legal recourse, I certainly do not advocate vigilante justice.  That&#8217;s even more wrong than the original act.</p>
<p>However, society has the right to exclude her as a result of her actions, and that&#8217;s what is happening now.</p>
<p>As to those who say that Megan&#8217;s parents were irresponsible about letting her on MySpace when they knew she was fragile, I will reiterate:  Until the day that everything blew up, that interaction was a positive thing in Megan&#8217;s life, not negative.  And when it did blow up, it did it fast and furious, which is typical of flame wars in online communities. It happened randomly, with no rhyme or reason, and I&#8217;m sure it devastated Megan.  I wish she would not have acted on her suicidal impulse, but she did, and yes, no one tied the knot on the noose for her.  However, to discover after the fact that the instigator was a supposedly responsible parent is just about beyond comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

This blog-site was intended to discuss these particular events, NOT ALL HAPPENINGS IN GENERAL. At least that is how I understand it (please forgive me if I am wrong)

This WAS NOT a real boyfriend... though Megan was led to believe It WAS prompted by actions of deception directed by Lori Drew.  This was a trap...

If you and DARWIN (whoever they really are) want to discuss Laws of the jungle or even better yet, strategy of JUNGLE WARFARE where traps are laid in order to surprise a stronger adversary,.. then I would be glad to engage... 

 
Frank... you need to step back and see the whole picture for what it was.. a physiological trap to do harm to an ADHD thirteen year old child whom Lori Drew knew was dealing with the effects of ADHD.

You and DARWIN are welcome to deliver all the smoke screening you want... the owner of this blog site has allowed an open format... But know that I will respond to anyone who tries to redirect others views from the truth.. 

I have NO connection to the Meier&#039;s family, I have never met them.. spoke to them nor had any communication of any kind with them.  I am just the grandfather of two ADHD grandchildren of Megan&#039;s age and have been touched by the story..

I do NOT want any physical harm to come to anyone in the Drew family... I DO want to see Lori Drew spend time behind bars... Those are the rules of our society..
An adult knowingly help create an ongoing lie that led to a child&#039;s demise..

These are ONLY MY OPINIONS from my view and I do NOT claim to know all truths... But my opinions ARE educated hands-on opinions...  But I do know there IS a GOD and GOD knews all truths and Lori Drew and her supportive friends and family will meet their maker sooner or later...  Thank God for her.. God is more forgiving than men.

Phil Gray... Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>This blog-site was intended to discuss these particular events, NOT ALL HAPPENINGS IN GENERAL. At least that is how I understand it (please forgive me if I am wrong)</p>
<p>This WAS NOT a real boyfriend&#8230; though Megan was led to believe It WAS prompted by actions of deception directed by Lori Drew.  This was a trap&#8230;</p>
<p>If you and DARWIN (whoever they really are) want to discuss Laws of the jungle or even better yet, strategy of JUNGLE WARFARE where traps are laid in order to surprise a stronger adversary,.. then I would be glad to engage&#8230; </p>
<p>Frank&#8230; you need to step back and see the whole picture for what it was.. a physiological trap to do harm to an ADHD thirteen year old child whom Lori Drew knew was dealing with the effects of ADHD.</p>
<p>You and DARWIN are welcome to deliver all the smoke screening you want&#8230; the owner of this blog site has allowed an open format&#8230; But know that I will respond to anyone who tries to redirect others views from the truth.. </p>
<p>I have NO connection to the Meier&#8217;s family, I have never met them.. spoke to them nor had any communication of any kind with them.  I am just the grandfather of two ADHD grandchildren of Megan&#8217;s age and have been touched by the story..</p>
<p>I do NOT want any physical harm to come to anyone in the Drew family&#8230; I DO want to see Lori Drew spend time behind bars&#8230; Those are the rules of our society..<br />
An adult knowingly help create an ongoing lie that led to a child&#8217;s demise..</p>
<p>These are ONLY MY OPINIONS from my view and I do NOT claim to know all truths&#8230; But my opinions ARE educated hands-on opinions&#8230;  But I do know there IS a GOD and GOD knews all truths and Lori Drew and her supportive friends and family will meet their maker sooner or later&#8230;  Thank God for her.. God is more forgiving than men.</p>
<p>Phil Gray&#8230; Florida</p>
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