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		<title>By: WTF- Sad Edition &#171; W T F</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-42007</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF- Sad Edition &#171; W T F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all the wisdom of a 39 yr old decided to climb into the sandbox and punch whoever had hurt her kid. Evidently, I&#8217;m not the only one who finds that picture wrong on so many levels.  We are living in an ever evolving world, our laws are changing too, albeit slowly. We are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all the wisdom of a 39 yr old decided to climb into the sandbox and punch whoever had hurt her kid. Evidently, I&#8217;m not the only one who finds that picture wrong on so many levels.  We are living in an ever evolving world, our laws are changing too, albeit slowly. We are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: odd time signatures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To Lori Drew: Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>odd time signatures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To Lori Drew: Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I did disclaim my last post on Lori Drew with the caveat that the MeganHadItComing blog could be an invention, I wrote as if it were truly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I did disclaim my last post on Lori Drew with the caveat that the MeganHadItComing blog could be an invention, I wrote as if it were truly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-40701</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The weblog was a hoax.</description>
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		<title>By: Danny Vice</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-40690</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the Megan Meier case seems outrageous and unique, it isn’t unique.  Hundreds of cases of egregious and heinous acts go on every day with the same excuses out of our lawmakers.

One such other case....The case of Nikki Catsouras, is a classic example of disgusting, hateful activity against innocent victims, while our lawmakers excuse themselves from enacting laws to prevent this.

The excuse lawmakers use to let themselves off the hook stem from the growth of the Internet and how fast it&#039;s changing. This is a sham. 

Chat rooms, message boards, instant messengers and email have been in existence for far over a decade now. While the software used to transmit messages changes slightly, the basic essence of using the Internet to send a message is largely the same. Is a decade or two long enough to establish some basic decency laws in regards to Internet usage?

I’ve posted the Nikki Catsouras story along with many details about the Megan Meier case so the inactivity out of our lawmakers towards these types of cases can be clearly seen.

Those who are interested in learning about cases like Megan’s and Nikki’s case are encouraged to drop by and comment on them if you like.  I have a couple of polls set up as well.  Danny Vice would like to hear your point of view.

Public awareness of the problem and discussions about possible solutions are the best way to pressure elected officials into action instead of excuse making.

I invite you to come by and share your opinion.

Danny Vice
http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the Megan Meier case seems outrageous and unique, it isn’t unique.  Hundreds of cases of egregious and heinous acts go on every day with the same excuses out of our lawmakers.</p>
<p>One such other case&#8230;.The case of Nikki Catsouras, is a classic example of disgusting, hateful activity against innocent victims, while our lawmakers excuse themselves from enacting laws to prevent this.</p>
<p>The excuse lawmakers use to let themselves off the hook stem from the growth of the Internet and how fast it&#8217;s changing. This is a sham. </p>
<p>Chat rooms, message boards, instant messengers and email have been in existence for far over a decade now. While the software used to transmit messages changes slightly, the basic essence of using the Internet to send a message is largely the same. Is a decade or two long enough to establish some basic decency laws in regards to Internet usage?</p>
<p>I’ve posted the Nikki Catsouras story along with many details about the Megan Meier case so the inactivity out of our lawmakers towards these types of cases can be clearly seen.</p>
<p>Those who are interested in learning about cases like Megan’s and Nikki’s case are encouraged to drop by and comment on them if you like.  I have a couple of polls set up as well.  Danny Vice would like to hear your point of view.</p>
<p>Public awareness of the problem and discussions about possible solutions are the best way to pressure elected officials into action instead of excuse making.</p>
<p>I invite you to come by and share your opinion.</p>
<p>Danny Vice<br />
<a href="http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://weeklyvice.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sunshine and Farts &#187; Lori Drew is One Sick Lady</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-40667</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunshine and Farts &#187; Lori Drew is One Sick Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also highly suggest you give a read to this well-done post, &quot;Lori Drew Becomes the Witch-Victim&quot; on the blog, odd time signatures. She - with experience dealing with people like Lori Drew - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also highly suggest you give a read to this well-done post, &#8220;Lori Drew Becomes the Witch-Victim&#8221; on the blog, odd time signatures. She &#8211; with experience dealing with people like Lori Drew &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Giselle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giselle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post has hit home in multiple ways. My father is doing something very similar to what the Witch-figure has done, unleashing his psycho mistress on my mother. He&#039;s been trying to build a case to claim my mother is crazy, that no mistress exists, and that she needs to be committed, so that he can  get full stewardship over all the money. He wants to run off with his mistress after making sure my mother is left penniless and on the streets. He&#039;s extremely good at hiding his tracks and intentions, and his mistress not only has connections to Comcast, but is also fairly adept with computers and very good at cyberstalking. She&#039;ll call to anonymously harrass my mother and uses old party-line technology to make it look on phone bills like my mother made the calls, or that no calls by proxy ever took place. I&#039;ve tried everything in my power to get her out of this situation, but I don&#039;t have the money to get a lawyer or private investigator, and she has friends in high places too. 

This, combined with the years of physical and emotional abuse my mother, brother and I have all suffered, drove me to leave the house to become financially independent so he could no longer blackmail me by threatening to cut my college tuition or force me to drop out to cook and clean for him as his maid. I moved from Los Angeles to Boston, and while I am poor I have my dignity and freedom. I still fight to find my mother a way out, hoping one day she&#039;ll meet me halfway and take a stand against my father for good. So I definitely feel your pain on the father-willing-to-throw-you-under-the-bus situation. 

On top of that, I was bullied constantly from 5th through 9th grades, in a manner so pervasive and devious that even the teachers and parents of the bullies condoned it; my 6th grade teacher even joined in on the insults and public humiliation. It was only in my early 20&#039;s that my suicidal and self-mutilating tendencies finally died down, and my life has improved dramatically as I build a career and savor my liberty. I consider myself truly fortunate that the internet did not exist until I was in high school, otherwise the damage would have been compounded, and I&#039;m not sure I would be here today. 

As such, I hold no sympathy for Lori Drew, and the whole controversy has hit home in a very visceral manner that has caused me to relive some of the darkest moments of my life. I&#039;ve dealt with &quot;those&quot; types of mothers, and it continues to infuriate me to see people who ooze snake oil and brazen hypocrisy actually win people over. I acknowledge that Megan was probably just as cruel as the others, but that in no way justifies the systemic and premeditated mind rape executed by this psycho helicopter mom and her equally heartless daughter (who for some reason never gets any blame in this). She may get away scot-free in the eyes of the law, but with the public outcry and subsequent loss of her business and her husband&#039;s job, she&#039;s reaping the fruits of her labor. How sad that she has the audacity to pull a &quot;bring &#039;em on&quot; -style taunt to the internet community at large to &quot;come and get me&quot;; she cares so little for her own daughter&#039;s safety she would endanger her further just to thumb her nose at the internet. I don&#039;t think she&#039;ll ever understand or care that what she has done is truly reprehensible, as long as she keeps telling herself she&#039;s the victim. 

In any case, I wanted to thank you for your post, and for sharing your pain with us. You&#039;re most definitely not alone in that, and indeed banding together to work for justice and peace is the only thing that will effect change. Not payback, not vengeance, but truly seeking out justice and working to better the lot of those around us through education and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post has hit home in multiple ways. My father is doing something very similar to what the Witch-figure has done, unleashing his psycho mistress on my mother. He&#8217;s been trying to build a case to claim my mother is crazy, that no mistress exists, and that she needs to be committed, so that he can  get full stewardship over all the money. He wants to run off with his mistress after making sure my mother is left penniless and on the streets. He&#8217;s extremely good at hiding his tracks and intentions, and his mistress not only has connections to Comcast, but is also fairly adept with computers and very good at cyberstalking. She&#8217;ll call to anonymously harrass my mother and uses old party-line technology to make it look on phone bills like my mother made the calls, or that no calls by proxy ever took place. I&#8217;ve tried everything in my power to get her out of this situation, but I don&#8217;t have the money to get a lawyer or private investigator, and she has friends in high places too. </p>
<p>This, combined with the years of physical and emotional abuse my mother, brother and I have all suffered, drove me to leave the house to become financially independent so he could no longer blackmail me by threatening to cut my college tuition or force me to drop out to cook and clean for him as his maid. I moved from Los Angeles to Boston, and while I am poor I have my dignity and freedom. I still fight to find my mother a way out, hoping one day she&#8217;ll meet me halfway and take a stand against my father for good. So I definitely feel your pain on the father-willing-to-throw-you-under-the-bus situation. </p>
<p>On top of that, I was bullied constantly from 5th through 9th grades, in a manner so pervasive and devious that even the teachers and parents of the bullies condoned it; my 6th grade teacher even joined in on the insults and public humiliation. It was only in my early 20&#8217;s that my suicidal and self-mutilating tendencies finally died down, and my life has improved dramatically as I build a career and savor my liberty. I consider myself truly fortunate that the internet did not exist until I was in high school, otherwise the damage would have been compounded, and I&#8217;m not sure I would be here today. </p>
<p>As such, I hold no sympathy for Lori Drew, and the whole controversy has hit home in a very visceral manner that has caused me to relive some of the darkest moments of my life. I&#8217;ve dealt with &#8220;those&#8221; types of mothers, and it continues to infuriate me to see people who ooze snake oil and brazen hypocrisy actually win people over. I acknowledge that Megan was probably just as cruel as the others, but that in no way justifies the systemic and premeditated mind rape executed by this psycho helicopter mom and her equally heartless daughter (who for some reason never gets any blame in this). She may get away scot-free in the eyes of the law, but with the public outcry and subsequent loss of her business and her husband&#8217;s job, she&#8217;s reaping the fruits of her labor. How sad that she has the audacity to pull a &#8220;bring &#8216;em on&#8221; -style taunt to the internet community at large to &#8220;come and get me&#8221;; she cares so little for her own daughter&#8217;s safety she would endanger her further just to thumb her nose at the internet. I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;ll ever understand or care that what she has done is truly reprehensible, as long as she keeps telling herself she&#8217;s the victim. </p>
<p>In any case, I wanted to thank you for your post, and for sharing your pain with us. You&#8217;re most definitely not alone in that, and indeed banding together to work for justice and peace is the only thing that will effect change. Not payback, not vengeance, but truly seeking out justice and working to better the lot of those around us through education and compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-40640</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That was an awesome post. I&#039;ve not had that experience with an adult. It&#039;s such a shame. The fact that Lori Dew is free to even position herself as a victim is shameful. It is crucial that we recognize toxic people and make sure our children recognize them also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That was an awesome post. I&#8217;ve not had that experience with an adult. It&#8217;s such a shame. The fact that Lori Dew is free to even position herself as a victim is shameful. It is crucial that we recognize toxic people and make sure our children recognize them also.</p>
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		<title>By: Pax Nortona - A Blog by Joel Sax &#187; Lori Drew&#8217;s Daughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pax Nortona - A Blog by Joel Sax &#187; Lori Drew&#8217;s Daughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shows no mercy towards who she calls &#8220;the witch-victim&#8220;. She talks about how an outsider tried to destroy her [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MySpace Mom Gets What She Deserves: Community Condemnation &#124; jasonunger.com</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2007/12/05/lori-drew-becomes-the-witch-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-40634</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace Mom Gets What She Deserves: Community Condemnation &#124; jasonunger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unfortunately, because of the ill-will towards her, police patrols have increased in the neighborhood, essentially turning Lori Drew into a victim. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Liz.  It is a story that I knew would somehow be helpful one day in helping others to understand how incredibly evil some parents can be.  I am lucky to have had some years to figure out that what The Witch did was not directed at me as much as it was her need to get what she wanted and to clear out anyone who stood in her way. 

There are really people out there who do things like this, and I believe Lori Drew is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Liz.  It is a story that I knew would somehow be helpful one day in helping others to understand how incredibly evil some parents can be.  I am lucky to have had some years to figure out that what The Witch did was not directed at me as much as it was her need to get what she wanted and to clear out anyone who stood in her way. </p>
<p>There are really people out there who do things like this, and I believe Lori Drew is one of them.</p>
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