Before you get twisted about pap smears and mammograms…

by Karoli on November 20, 2009 · 9 comments

Understand that the recent “news” about screening recommendations for them is being used as a tactic against health care reform.

Let’s talk about Pap smear recommendations first. They have been evolving for years. In 2006 the first major revision was introduced, calling for Pap smears at age 21 or 3 years after a woman is first sexually active. This was based upon provable statistics indicating a realignment in the effective use of Pap smears for diagnosis.

I did a quick search on WebMD and found the first revision in 2003 with a second in 2005, and another in 2006. The 2006 guidelines kept the age 21/3rd year after first sexually active, but spread the number of years between pap smears for older women. The recent update simply sets the first pap smear at 21 and is supported by research and actual numbers.

In other words, it isn’t some sort of evil rationing and it certainly isn’t political.

And yet, we’re in the midst of a heated health care debate, so it must be political, right? RIGHT?

It’s certainly being played that way by those opposing reform. The righteous grandstanding was nearly unbearable today. Evidently, doctors have become Democrats who not only want to kill Grandma, they want to take away her mammograms, too.

I’m sure they will continue the narrative with the claim that it’s not enough to off Grandma, they’re rationing women’s right to have a cold speculum inserted into their vagina once a year. How conveeeeenient.

Well, there are some inconvenient facts in the way. The age for annual screening has been in dispute for some time. There is a very real risk to being radiated, and the question has always been whether the risk justifies the reward (early detection). The numbers seem to indicate that they don’t.

Like it or not, a part of health care reform is going to be getting our heads around the fact that much of what we accept as preventive medicine, isn’t. That’s not a political statement. It’s a paradigm shift from the world of excessive and unnecessary testing to a world where we take hold of our health, get fact-based information, and actually start applying it.

Let’s turn around the debate for a minute. Try shedding your preconceived notions for a minute and consider this hypothetical question: Would you embrace a doctor telling you that despite the fact that the professional breast exam you just received indicated no lumps or cause for concern, he would like you to step up to that machine over there and spend a couple of minutes having your breasts subjected to radioactive isotopes “just to be sure”?

Or another scenario: Knowing that pap results can return false positives, how would you feel having that kindly OB/GYN invite your daughter in to undress and put her feet in the stirrups after letting you both know that it’s not really necessary or even recommended, but let’s do it anyway… “just to make sure she’s not that 1 in a million teen”? Would it be worth it to you? To her?

Part of what we need is an honest debate about what screening is effective and lowers risk and what screening is not effective. In those areas where screening is less effective, perhaps there should be research toward better screening techniques and tools.

It frustrates me to see women’s health tossed onto the floor of Congress like a football on the 20-yard line. We are not pawns and we don’t have to be so reactive to these issues. Let’s just come at the whole debate from a rational, reasoned, fact-based place and see if we can sort it all out instead of allowing every procedure relating only to women be turned into an emotional screaming match.

  • http://47thoughts.blogspot.com LisaS

    Exactly. Lord forbid that Science might help us figure out reasonable approaches to the way it touches most of our lives. Thank God there's another WOMAN who can see this point.

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  • slzahm

    I have a friend who died of cervical cancer at age 44 leaving 4 children she did not have a pap smear for 3 years, her choice but a deadly one. So if it then becomes the norm to get a pap once every 2-3 years, that is deadly wrong. As it is also wrong that mammograms not be recommended until age 50, come on, let me get my list together of friends in their 30's and 40's that have fought or are fighting for their lives at the very moment I write this. My closest friend had a masectomy after early detection at age 45, we are hoping for the best. I am appalled that anyone would recommend anything other than yearly exams for both.

    Science may help us, but God forbid that the government dictates ANYTHING I am allowed or not allowed to do to maintain a healthy body!!!

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  • Your Rational People You

    Unfortunately for us, there are enough “rational” people like you out there who vote. And ther results of your 'rational' votes will be enough to hand over our liberties to the government.
    The announcements were meant to continue lure the “rational” voters like you into your sorry stupor.
    I will be watching your posts if we do get single payer to read how your rationalize all their decisions.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    The Pap smear recommendation has been around for a long time. It isn't new. The press releases are pure politics, played for the unwashed masses.

    The mammogram guidelines are just that – guidelines. Guidelines developed by a panel of experts who are not breast cancer experts, appointed by the previous President. They are non-binding and I seriously doubt they would be adopted as the standard, given the number of anecdotal contradictions (like the one you describe).

    The hysteria over giving up liberties is absurd. To buy that argument one has to accept that liberty isn't already given away to corporate entities. Which of course, it is. And if your insurance won't pay for a mammogram, what do you do? Pay for it yourself, of course (assuming you are that committed to having one). So nothing changes except maybe some uninsured women over age 50 have a mammogram, and maybe some of their lives are saved. I suppose that's a bad thing if you begrudge anyone currently without access getting access, which in my view would be an extremely selfish attitude.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    The Pap smear recommendation has been around for a long time. It isn't new. The press releases are pure politics, played for the unwashed masses.

    The mammogram guidelines are just that – guidelines. Guidelines developed by a panel of experts who are not breast cancer experts, appointed by the previous President. They are non-binding and I seriously doubt they would be adopted as the standard, given the number of anecdotal contradictions (like the one you describe).

    The hysteria over giving up liberties is absurd. To buy that argument one has to accept that liberty isn't already given away to corporate entities. Which of course, it is. And if your insurance won't pay for a mammogram, what do you do? Pay for it yourself, of course (assuming you are that committed to having one). So nothing changes except maybe some uninsured women over age 50 have a mammogram, and maybe some of their lives are saved. I suppose that's a bad thing if you begrudge anyone currently without access getting access, which in my view would be an extremely selfish attitude.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    The Pap smear recommendation has been around for a long time. It isn't new. The press releases are pure politics, played for the unwashed masses.

    The mammogram guidelines are just that – guidelines. Guidelines developed by a panel of experts who are not breast cancer experts, appointed by the previous President. They are non-binding and I seriously doubt they would be adopted as the standard, given the number of anecdotal contradictions (like the one you describe).

    The hysteria over giving up liberties is absurd. To buy that argument one has to accept that liberty isn't already given away to corporate entities. Which of course, it is. And if your insurance won't pay for a mammogram, what do you do? Pay for it yourself, of course (assuming you are that committed to having one). So nothing changes except maybe some uninsured women over age 50 have a mammogram, and maybe some of their lives are saved. I suppose that's a bad thing if you begrudge anyone currently without access getting access, which in my view would be an extremely selfish attitude.

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