You ignore my pointing out the problem of cost-shifting, and that what is currently being proposed will only exacerbate that problem; making costs even more obscenely high! You seem to think the problem stems from some sort of monopoly that you perceive. We might have to agree to disagree on the cause.

That being said I will put forth ideas that I thing would solve the problem regardless of which one of us is right as to the cause of the problem.

1) give individuals the same tax incentives that group employers get for providing health care insurance
2) Just like the mandatory car insurance model democrats keep pointing to, allow interstate competition. The gekko will look cute with a stethescope and white lab coat!
3) You'll accuse me of partisanship for this one, but put SOME type of cap on the legal jackpot justice that goes on today. yes, evil tort reform. I do not say make it cheap, but put some type of cap that will give the insurance actuaries something to work with. Today, the sky is the limit, and so the premiums that doctors get billed are huge. And please remember, the doctors don't pay those premiums, their customers (you and me) pay those premiums.

P.S. Just because I disagree or dissent from your position does not mean I am partisan. The conservatives hate the libertine half of my brain as much as you hate the conservative half.

I'm certain that as a conservative, you'd agree with me that these are incredibly high costs, and the reason they're high is because they know we have no alternative but to pay them. As an uninsured individual, we have no voice and no weight to negotiate costs, so we absorb the costs for the other uninsureds, the dealmaking of the insurers, and the rate cuts that everyone but uninsured people enjoy. As long as we have the temerity to own our home, they own our excessive health care costs.

So talk to me some more about costs. Talk to me about cutting them. Do it without the partisan claptrap, just give me some ideas for doing it. Mine? Outcomes-based medical decisions, prevention, wellness, early interventions, and most of all — ACCESS.

Let's take a look at the final bill and then decide. As the saying goes a rose by any other name, is still a rose. If it accomplishes what is desired who cares what it is called.

You ignore my pointing out the problem of cost-shifting, and that what is currently being proposed will only exacerbate that problem; making costs even more obscenely high! You seem to think the problem stems from some sort of monopoly that you perceive. We might have to agree to disagree on the cause.

That being said I will put forth ideas that I thing would solve the problem regardless of which one of us is right as to the cause of the problem.

1) give individuals the same tax incentives that group employers get for providing health care insurance
2) Just like the mandatory car insurance model democrats keep pointing to, allow interstate competition. The gekko will look cute with a stethescope and white lab coat!
3) You'll accuse me of partisanship for this one, but put SOME type of cap on the legal jackpot justice that goes on today. yes, evil tort reform. I do not say make it cheap, but put some type of cap that will give the insurance actuaries something to work with. Today, the sky is the limit, and so the premiums that doctors get billed are huge. And please remember, the doctors don't pay those premiums, their customers (you and me) pay those premiums.

P.S. Just because I disagree or dissent from your position does not mean I am partisan. The conservatives hate the libertine half of my brain as much as you hate the conservative half.

I'm certain that as a conservative, you'd agree with me that these are incredibly high costs, and the reason they're high is because they know we have no alternative but to pay them. As an uninsured individual, we have no voice and no weight to negotiate costs, so we absorb the costs for the other uninsureds, the dealmaking of the insurers, and the rate cuts that everyone but uninsured people enjoy. As long as we have the temerity to own our home, they own our excessive health care costs.

So talk to me some more about costs. Talk to me about cutting them. Do it without the partisan claptrap, just give me some ideas for doing it. Mine? Outcomes-based medical decisions, prevention, wellness, early interventions, and most of all — ACCESS.

You ignore my pointing out the problem of cost-shifting, and that what is currently being proposed will only exacerbate that problem; making costs even more obscenely high! You seem to think the problem stems from some sort of monopoly that you perceive. We might have to agree to disagree on the cause.

That being said I will put forth ideas that I thing would solve the problem regardless of which one of us is right as to the cause of the problem.

1) give individuals the same tax incentives that group employers get for providing health care insurance
2) Just like the mandatory car insurance model democrats keep pointing to, allow interstate competition. The gekko will look cute with a stethescope and white lab coat!
3) You'll accuse me of partisanship for this one, but put SOME type of cap on the legal jackpot justice that goes on today. yes, evil tort reform. I do not say make it cheap, but put some type of cap that will give the insurance actuaries something to work with. Today, the sky is the limit, and so the premiums that doctors get billed are huge. And please remember, the doctors don't pay those premiums, their customers (you and me) pay those premiums.

P.S. Just because I disagree or dissent from your position does not mean I am partisan. The conservatives hate the libertine half of my brain as much as you hate the conservative half.

You ignore my pointing out the problem of cost-shifting, and that what is currently being proposed will only exacerbate that problem; making costs even more obscenely high! You seem to think the problem stems from some sort of monopoly that you perceive. We might have to agree to disagree on the cause.

That being said I will put forth ideas that I thing would solve the problem regardless of which one of us is right as to the cause of the problem.

1) give individuals the same tax incentives that group employers get for providing health care insurance
2) Just like the mandatory car insurance model democrats keep pointing to, allow interstate competition. The gekko will look cute with a stethescope and white lab coat!
3) You'll accuse me of partisanship for this one, but put SOME type of cap on the legal jackpot justice that goes on today. yes, evil tort reform. I do not say make it cheap, but put some type of cap that will give the insurance actuaries something to work with. Today, the sky is the limit, and so the premiums that doctors get billed are huge. And please remember, the doctors don't pay those premiums, their customers (you and me) pay those premiums.

P.S. Just because I disagree or dissent from your position does not mean I am partisan. The conservatives hate the libertine half of my brain as much as you hate the conservative half.