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		<title>By: lindadapper</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-51594</link>
		<dc:creator>lindadapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator on Twitter (alapha order)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Barbara Boxer (@barbara_boxer&lt;br&gt;Senator Sam Brownback(@sensambrownback)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Begich (@MarkBegich)&lt;br&gt;Senator Tom Coburn (@tomcoburn)&lt;br&gt;Senator Susan Collins (@senatorcollins)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bob Corker (@senbobcorker)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Cornyn (@johncornyn)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jim DeMint (@jimdement)&lt;br&gt;Senator Chris Dodd (@SenChrisDodd)&lt;br&gt;Senator Dick Durbin(@dickdurbin)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Ensign (@johnensign)&lt;br&gt;Senator Russ Feingold (@russfeingold)&lt;br&gt;SenatorChuck Grassley (@chuckgrassley)&lt;br&gt;Senator Orrin Hatch (@orrinhatch)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jim Inhofe (@jminhofe)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Kerry(@johnkerry)&lt;br&gt;Senator Richard Lugar (@senatorlugar)&lt;br&gt;Senator John McCain (@senjohnmccain)&lt;br&gt;Senator Claire McCaskill (@clairemc)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bob Menendez(@senatormenendez)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jeff Merkley (@senjeffmerkley)&lt;br&gt;Senator Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowsk&lt;br&gt;Senator Ben Nelson (@senbennelson)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bill Nelson (@senbillnelson)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bernie Sanders (@senatorsanders)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jeff Sessions (@SenatorSessions)&lt;br&gt;Senator Richard Shelby (@RichardShelby)&lt;br&gt;Senator Arlen Specter(@senarlenspecter)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Thune (@johnthune&lt;br&gt;Senator Harry Reid (@senatorreid)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Udall(@markudall)&lt;br&gt;Senator Tom Udall (@tomudall&lt;br&gt;Senator David Vitter (@davidvitter)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner)&lt;br&gt;Senator Roger Wicker(@rogerwicker)</description>
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<p>Senator Barbara Boxer (@barbara_boxer<br />Senator Sam Brownback(@sensambrownback)<br />Senator Mark Begich (@MarkBegich)<br />Senator Tom Coburn (@tomcoburn)<br />Senator Susan Collins (@senatorcollins)<br />Senator Bob Corker (@senbobcorker)<br />Senator John Cornyn (@johncornyn)<br />Senator Jim DeMint (@jimdement)<br />Senator Chris Dodd (@SenChrisDodd)<br />Senator Dick Durbin(@dickdurbin)<br />Senator John Ensign (@johnensign)<br />Senator Russ Feingold (@russfeingold)<br />SenatorChuck Grassley (@chuckgrassley)<br />Senator Orrin Hatch (@orrinhatch)<br />Senator Jim Inhofe (@jminhofe)<br />Senator John Kerry(@johnkerry)<br />Senator Richard Lugar (@senatorlugar)<br />Senator John McCain (@senjohnmccain)<br />Senator Claire McCaskill (@clairemc)<br />Senator Bob Menendez(@senatormenendez)<br />Senator Jeff Merkley (@senjeffmerkley)<br />Senator Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowsk<br />Senator Ben Nelson (@senbennelson)<br />Senator Bill Nelson (@senbillnelson)<br />Senator Bernie Sanders (@senatorsanders)<br />Senator Jeff Sessions (@SenatorSessions)<br />Senator Richard Shelby (@RichardShelby)<br />Senator Arlen Specter(@senarlenspecter)<br />Senator John Thune (@johnthune<br />Senator Harry Reid (@senatorreid)<br />Senator Mark Udall(@markudall)<br />Senator Tom Udall (@tomudall<br />Senator David Vitter (@davidvitter)<br />Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner)<br />Senator Roger Wicker(@rogerwicker)</p>
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		<title>By: lindadapper</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-51324</link>
		<dc:creator>lindadapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator on Twitter (alapha order)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Barbara Boxer (@barbara_boxer&lt;br&gt;Senator Sam Brownback(@sensambrownback)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Begich (@MarkBegich)&lt;br&gt;Senator Tom Coburn (@tomcoburn)&lt;br&gt;Senator Susan Collins (@senatorcollins)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bob Corker (@senbobcorker)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Cornyn (@johncornyn)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jim DeMint (@jimdement)&lt;br&gt;Senator Chris Dodd (@SenChrisDodd)&lt;br&gt;Senator Dick Durbin(@dickdurbin)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Ensign (@johnensign)&lt;br&gt;Senator Russ Feingold (@russfeingold)&lt;br&gt;SenatorChuck Grassley (@chuckgrassley)&lt;br&gt;Senator Orrin Hatch (@orrinhatch)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jim Inhofe (@jminhofe)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Kerry(@johnkerry)&lt;br&gt;Senator Richard Lugar (@senatorlugar)&lt;br&gt;Senator John McCain (@senjohnmccain)&lt;br&gt;Senator Claire McCaskill (@clairemc)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bob Menendez(@senatormenendez)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jeff Merkley (@senjeffmerkley)&lt;br&gt;Senator Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowsk&lt;br&gt;Senator Ben Nelson (@senbennelson)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bill Nelson (@senbillnelson)&lt;br&gt;Senator Bernie Sanders (@senatorsanders)&lt;br&gt;Senator Jeff Sessions (@SenatorSessions)&lt;br&gt;Senator Richard Shelby (@RichardShelby)&lt;br&gt;Senator Arlen Specter(@senarlenspecter)&lt;br&gt;Senator John Thune (@johnthune&lt;br&gt;Senator Harry Reid (@senatorreid)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Udall(@markudall)&lt;br&gt;Senator Tom Udall (@tomudall&lt;br&gt;Senator David Vitter (@davidvitter)&lt;br&gt;Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner)&lt;br&gt;Senator Roger Wicker(@rogerwicker)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator on Twitter (alapha order)</p>
<p>Senator Barbara Boxer (@barbara_boxer<br />Senator Sam Brownback(@sensambrownback)<br />Senator Mark Begich (@MarkBegich)<br />Senator Tom Coburn (@tomcoburn)<br />Senator Susan Collins (@senatorcollins)<br />Senator Bob Corker (@senbobcorker)<br />Senator John Cornyn (@johncornyn)<br />Senator Jim DeMint (@jimdement)<br />Senator Chris Dodd (@SenChrisDodd)<br />Senator Dick Durbin(@dickdurbin)<br />Senator John Ensign (@johnensign)<br />Senator Russ Feingold (@russfeingold)<br />SenatorChuck Grassley (@chuckgrassley)<br />Senator Orrin Hatch (@orrinhatch)<br />Senator Jim Inhofe (@jminhofe)<br />Senator John Kerry(@johnkerry)<br />Senator Richard Lugar (@senatorlugar)<br />Senator John McCain (@senjohnmccain)<br />Senator Claire McCaskill (@clairemc)<br />Senator Bob Menendez(@senatormenendez)<br />Senator Jeff Merkley (@senjeffmerkley)<br />Senator Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowsk<br />Senator Ben Nelson (@senbennelson)<br />Senator Bill Nelson (@senbillnelson)<br />Senator Bernie Sanders (@senatorsanders)<br />Senator Jeff Sessions (@SenatorSessions)<br />Senator Richard Shelby (@RichardShelby)<br />Senator Arlen Specter(@senarlenspecter)<br />Senator John Thune (@johnthune<br />Senator Harry Reid (@senatorreid)<br />Senator Mark Udall(@markudall)<br />Senator Tom Udall (@tomudall<br />Senator David Vitter (@davidvitter)<br />Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner)<br />Senator Roger Wicker(@rogerwicker)</p>
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		<title>By: lindadapper</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-51325</link>
		<dc:creator>lindadapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lindadapper</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-51595</link>
		<dc:creator>lindadapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Conservative Libertine</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-53331</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Libertine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of pre-existing conditions came about the same time congress rolled out medicare medicaid. The idea was backed by the government then because they thought it would incentivize people to maintain insurance policies. They were talking the same mantra then that they are talking today. If everybody, including the young and health have insurance then the large pool will insure enough money is available for all. It didn&#039;t work out that though.

So, without the threat of being denied insurance for a pre-existing condition; explain to me again why I should carry health insurance? My choices are to continue to pay the monthly premiums as I do today, or I can drop my coverage and pay a tax that is roughly equivalent to one months premium? And then, if I get sick? Just sign up for insurance then! Brilliant!

http://conservativelibertine.blogspot.com/2009/11/so-explain-this-to-me-agin.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of pre-existing conditions came about the same time congress rolled out medicare medicaid. The idea was backed by the government then because they thought it would incentivize people to maintain insurance policies. They were talking the same mantra then that they are talking today. If everybody, including the young and health have insurance then the large pool will insure enough money is available for all. It didn&#8217;t work out that though.</p>
<p>So, without the threat of being denied insurance for a pre-existing condition; explain to me again why I should carry health insurance? My choices are to continue to pay the monthly premiums as I do today, or I can drop my coverage and pay a tax that is roughly equivalent to one months premium? And then, if I get sick? Just sign up for insurance then! Brilliant!</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativelibertine.blogspot.com/2009/11/so-explain-this-to-me-agin.html" rel="nofollow">http://conservativelibertine.blogspot.com/2009/11/so-explain-this-to-me-agin.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Social comments and analytics for this post...&lt;/strong&gt;

This post was mentioned on Identica by karoli: New blog post: True health care reform http://ur1.ca/hm4d...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Identica by karoli: New blog post: True health care reform <a href="http://ur1.ca/hm4d.." rel="nofollow">http://ur1.ca/hm4d..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; As long as insurers are permitted to cherry-pick their pools, there is no reform. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that&#039;s a good point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing about Canada, there is only one pool - a single payer. And people pay into that pool (via taxes) based on how much income they receive, not on the basis of where they live or what conditions they suffer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is not only fairer, it is substantially cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; As long as insurers are permitted to cherry-pick their pools, there is no reform. </p>
<p>I think that&#39;s a good point.</p>
<p>One thing about Canada, there is only one pool &#8211; a single payer. And people pay into that pool (via taxes) based on how much income they receive, not on the basis of where they live or what conditions they suffer.</p>
<p>It is not only fairer, it is substantially cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
		<link>http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/12/11/true-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-51315</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; As long as insurers are permitted to cherry-pick their pools, there is no reform. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that&#039;s a good point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing about Canada, there is only one pool - a single payer. And people pay into that pool (via taxes) based on how much income they receive, not on the basis of where they live or what conditions they suffer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is not only fairer, it is substantially cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; As long as insurers are permitted to cherry-pick their pools, there is no reform. </p>
<p>I think that&#39;s a good point.</p>
<p>One thing about Canada, there is only one pool &#8211; a single payer. And people pay into that pool (via taxes) based on how much income they receive, not on the basis of where they live or what conditions they suffer.</p>
<p>It is not only fairer, it is substantially cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention True health care reform: Puzzle it out -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention True health care reform: Puzzle it out -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Shoq Values, Karoli. Karoli said: RT @tweetmeme True health care reform: Puzzle it out http://bit.ly/57lA3k [...]</description>
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