“I am one unhappy camper, and think this bill is B.S. for the poor, who were supposed to be targeted and helped the most by this bill. It only seems to help the fat-cats to get their deep pockets lined a little bit deeper. I don't believe anyone will actually have any kind of immediate coverage from this bill, other than the Insurance Companies will see an immediate influx of cash into their twisted coffers.”

Those fat cats include those Senators who accepted bribes for their states that you will be mandated to pay for… There is certainly no equality for all with this Bill. Looks to me like a slush fund for the Dems and their supporters.

Gee, pay the rent or pay my health insurance? Pay the Car Payment or pay my Health Insurance? Pay the phone bill (so I can get more work, and be connected to the Internet) or pay my Health Insurance? Congress will be forcing many Americans to make that choice, or be “criminals” if they can't AFFORD health insurance.

This is Democracy, how?

This is insanity, that's what this is! They are not thinking at all about helping the poor, they have obligations they have to fill, to the companies that are paying for their campaigns. I, personally feel forced into something I do not want, or need.

Simple truth: I CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY GOVERNMENT MANDATED INSURANCE THAT I DON'T NEED! I do not like this bill, and have even come to wonder about my vote for Obama, and if I'm happy about it (not that McCain was a choice – I'm a Kucinich girl, myself, even with the Flying Saucers remark)!

Yes, Obama's done a few good things, but he also has not repealed Bush laws that give him more power than he should have, as well as having done many other actions that leave me in doubt (esp. Roe v Wade worries). I am one unhappy camper, and think this bill is B.S. for the poor, who were supposed to be targeted and helped the most by this bill. It only seems to help the fat-cats to get their deep pockets lined a little bit deeper. I don't believe anyone will actually have any kind of immediate coverage from this bill, other than the Insurance Companies will see an immediate influx of cash into their twisted coffers.

“I am one unhappy camper, and think this bill is B.S. for the poor, who were supposed to be targeted and helped the most by this bill. It only seems to help the fat-cats to get their deep pockets lined a little bit deeper. I don't believe anyone will actually have any kind of immediate coverage from this bill, other than the Insurance Companies will see an immediate influx of cash into their twisted coffers.”

Those fat cats include those Senators who accepted bribes for their states that you will be mandated to pay for… There is certainly no equality for all with this Bill. Looks to me like a slush fund for the Dems and their supporters.

“I am one unhappy camper, and think this bill is B.S. for the poor, who were supposed to be targeted and helped the most by this bill. It only seems to help the fat-cats to get their deep pockets lined a little bit deeper. I don't believe anyone will actually have any kind of immediate coverage from this bill, other than the Insurance Companies will see an immediate influx of cash into their twisted coffers.”

Those fat cats include those Senators who accepted bribes for their states that you will be mandated to pay for… There is certainly no equality for all with this Bill. Looks to me like a slush fund for the Dems and their supporters.

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Your argument for the rest of it rings hollow to me, because you are arguing that no one should have insurance if they're healthy, that disasters don't strike at whim, and that if they do, well, they can get it then. That's not how it works, because the fundamental question with insurance is always having a large enough risk pool of healthy to unhealthy people that the risk spreads among the largest group possible.

Assuming we had the infrastructure for single payer in place (which we do not at this time), would you be as angry about being MANDATED to pay WHATEVER IT TOOK for every American to have single payer, unlimited accessible health care?

I wonder about your indictment of it being BS for the poor, too. The Brenda link in my post goes off to a story of a hard-working waitress making next to nothing who now cannot work and cannot get Medicaid because she has no children eligible. Is it BS for her? Really? How so?

Your argument for the rest of it rings hollow to me, because you are arguing that no one should have insurance if they're healthy, that disasters don't strike at whim, and that if they do, well, they can get it then. That's not how it works, because the fundamental question with insurance is always having a large enough risk pool of healthy to unhealthy people that the risk spreads among the largest group possible.

Assuming we had the infrastructure for single payer in place (which we do not at this time), would you be as angry about being MANDATED to pay WHATEVER IT TOOK for every American to have single payer, unlimited accessible health care?

I wonder about your indictment of it being BS for the poor, too. The Brenda link in my post goes off to a story of a hard-working waitress making next to nothing who now cannot work and cannot get Medicaid because she has no children eligible. Is it BS for her? Really? How so?

Your argument for the rest of it rings hollow to me, because you are arguing that no one should have insurance if they're healthy, that disasters don't strike at whim, and that if they do, well, they can get it then. That's not how it works, because the fundamental question with insurance is always having a large enough risk pool of healthy to unhealthy people that the risk spreads among the largest group possible.

Assuming we had the infrastructure for single payer in place (which we do not at this time), would you be as angry about being MANDATED to pay WHATEVER IT TOOK for every American to have single payer, unlimited accessible health care?

I wonder about your indictment of it being BS for the poor, too. The Brenda link in my post goes off to a story of a hard-working waitress making next to nothing who now cannot work and cannot get Medicaid because she has no children eligible. Is it BS for her? Really? How so?

Gee, pay the rent or pay my health insurance? Pay the Car Payment or pay my Health Insurance? Pay the phone bill (so I can get more work, and be connected to the Internet) or pay my Health Insurance? Congress will be forcing many Americans to make that choice, or be “criminals” if they can't AFFORD health insurance.

This is Democracy, how?

This is insanity, that's what this is! They are not thinking at all about helping the poor, they have obligations they have to fill, to the companies that are paying for their campaigns. I, personally feel forced into something I do not want, or need.

Simple truth: I CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY GOVERNMENT MANDATED INSURANCE THAT I DON'T NEED! I do not like this bill, and have even come to wonder about my vote for Obama, and if I'm happy about it (not that McCain was a choice – I'm a Kucinich girl, myself, even with the Flying Saucers remark)!

Yes, Obama's done a few good things, but he also has not repealed Bush laws that give him more power than he should have, as well as having done many other actions that leave me in doubt (esp. Roe v Wade worries). I am one unhappy camper, and think this bill is B.S. for the poor, who were supposed to be targeted and helped the most by this bill. It only seems to help the fat-cats to get their deep pockets lined a little bit deeper. I don't believe anyone will actually have any kind of immediate coverage from this bill, other than the Insurance Companies will see an immediate influx of cash into their twisted coffers.