Comments on: Continuing dialogue with Micah Sifry: Hope, health, activism and results http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/ ...politics, pictures, pugs and all that jazz Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: So Sad http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52198 So Sad Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:52:12 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52198 The past 30 years has had the impact of you progressives. It's the left that has caused more problems interrfering with equality. It's your sheeple who say they demand equal rights and then legislate any sense of equality out the window. Look at your example of our educational system sliding into the sea... It's the left who has a stronghold on it and has caused it to 'slide into the sea' as you say. No, the right hasn't had a stronghold for the past 30 years at all. Get real Shoq (although your language and name calling doesn't shock me at all. I expect it from your side. seems to be all a lot of you on your side have to offer...) Your side needs to be honest about the destruction you have caused over the years and will continue to bring on this great country of ours. The past 30 years has had the impact of you progressives. It's the left that has caused more problems interrfering with equality. It's your sheeple who say they demand equal rights and then legislate any sense of equality out the window. Look at your example of our educational system sliding into the sea… It's the left who has a stronghold on it and has caused it to 'slide into the sea' as you say. No, the right hasn't had a stronghold for the past 30 years at all. Get real Shoq (although your language and name calling doesn't shock me at all. I expect it from your side. seems to be all a lot of you on your side have to offer…) Your side needs to be honest about the destruction you have caused over the years and will continue to bring on this great country of ours.

]]> By: Shoq http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52181 Shoq Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:09:52 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52181 So Sad: Of course, after conservatives spend 30 years discarding any respect for pluralism, turn most of our economy over to a handful of monopolies, and sit back while our infrastructure crumbles, our educational system slides into the sea, some wingnut like you will always stand up and bloviate about YOUR exceptionalism, YOUR country, and YOUR desire for anyone that doesn't agree with you to just leave. We've heard this refrain since the "love it or leave it" losers who defended the Watergate burglars, the Iran contra criminals, and the idiotic tea partiers who seem to love Dick Armey and billionaires more than their own children. And some wonder why we're in this fucking mess. It's because of deaf, dumb, blind, and STUPID sheep like you who elect people that make you FEEL empowered, but who actually strip you of any and all of it. I want my fucking country back, and it's up the ass of people like you. Just die quickly. So Sad: Of course, after conservatives spend 30 years discarding any respect for pluralism, turn most of our economy over to a handful of monopolies, and sit back while our infrastructure crumbles, our educational system slides into the sea, some wingnut like you will always stand up and bloviate about YOUR exceptionalism, YOUR country, and YOUR desire for anyone that doesn't agree with you to just leave. We've heard this refrain since the “love it or leave it” losers who defended the Watergate burglars, the Iran contra criminals, and the idiotic tea partiers who seem to love Dick Armey and billionaires more than their own children. And some wonder why we're in this fucking mess. It's because of deaf, dumb, blind, and STUPID sheep like you who elect people that make you FEEL empowered, but who actually strip you of any and all of it. I want my fucking country back, and it's up the ass of people like you. Just die quickly.

]]> By: So Sad http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52179 So Sad Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:13:40 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52179 Unfortunately your model of hope, "It is an axe you break down doors with in an emergency. Hope should shove you out the door, because it will take everything you have to steer the future away from endless war, from the annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal... " and your execution of it will destroy this great country of ours. But you progressives have your heads in the clouds and seem to think if you swing the axe high enough and long enough, your hoping will bring about a new 'changed' result from those of the past. So Sad. Your hope will affect me and my fellow Americans in a negative way. Why don't you consider moving to Europe where the change your hoping for is in place. Try it out for a while and then see if you want to bring it over here. Unfortunately your model of hope, “It is an axe you break down doors with in an emergency. Hope should shove you out the door, because it will take everything you have to steer the future away from endless war, from the annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal… ” and your execution of it will destroy this great country of ours. But you progressives have your heads in the clouds and seem to think if you swing the axe high enough and long enough, your hoping will bring about a new 'changed' result from those of the past. So Sad. Your hope will affect me and my fellow Americans in a negative way. Why don't you consider moving to Europe where the change your hoping for is in place. Try it out for a while and then see if you want to bring it over here.

]]> By: Cynematic http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52079 Cynematic Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:36:21 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52079 Great to hear--I'm all about bucking conventional wisdom. Elbow grease and GOTV. :) Great to hear–I'm all about bucking conventional wisdom. Elbow grease and GOTV. :)

]]> By: Karoli http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52069 Karoli Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:53 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52069 Thanks, Linda! Maybe I won't wait for Maddow...with Fox causing all the cable rates to increase, it might be time to start up our own show right here on the Internet and broadcast direct to all who might want to listen. :) Thanks, Linda! Maybe I won't wait for Maddow…with Fox causing all the cable rates to increase, it might be time to start up our own show right here on the Internet and broadcast direct to all who might want to listen. :)

]]> By: Karoli http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52067 Karoli Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:50:47 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52067 Well said, Cyn!!! I couldn't agree more. It's what gets us out of bed in the morning (and did for the last 8 years, too). Since engaging in this back and forth I've had several OFA volunteers reach out to me via direct messages on Twitter. They don't seem to be discouraged at all...in fact, they're gearing up for 2010 midterms to buck conventional wisdom. Well said, Cyn!!! I couldn't agree more. It's what gets us out of bed in the morning (and did for the last 8 years, too). Since engaging in this back and forth I've had several OFA volunteers reach out to me via direct messages on Twitter. They don't seem to be discouraged at all…in fact, they're gearing up for 2010 midterms to buck conventional wisdom.

]]> By: Cynematic http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52063 Cynematic Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:38:39 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52063 I'd like to further distinguish hope as sentiment far from passive and sentimental, but instead defined as one of the most powerful motivations for change:<br><br>"...the essayist Rebecca Solnit says: 'Hope is not a lottery ticket you can sit on the sofa and clutch, feeling lucky. It is an axe you break down doors with in an emergency. Hope should shove you out the door, because it will take everything you have to steer the future away from endless war, from the annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal... To hope is to give yourself to the future – and that commitment to the future is what makes the present inhabitable.'"<br><br>--from Johann Hari's blog post about the year 2009<br><a href="http://www.johannhari.com/2009/12/30/as-a-dark-year-ends-remember-the-inspirational-lights-of-2009" rel="nofollow">http://www.johannhari.com/2009/12/30/as-a-dark-...</a><br><br>Not a lottery ticket, but an axe to break down the door. I think many of us who gave so much of ourselves in the 2008 election are well aware that having Obama as president was important but not enough. It's this understanding of hope I wish progressives would seize on as we go forward. I'd like to further distinguish hope as sentiment far from passive and sentimental, but instead defined as one of the most powerful motivations for change:

“…the essayist Rebecca Solnit says: 'Hope is not a lottery ticket you can sit on the sofa and clutch, feeling lucky. It is an axe you break down doors with in an emergency. Hope should shove you out the door, because it will take everything you have to steer the future away from endless war, from the annihilation of the earth's treasures and the grinding down of the poor and marginal… To hope is to give yourself to the future – and that commitment to the future is what makes the present inhabitable.'”

–from Johann Hari's blog post about the year 2009
http://www.johannhari.com/2009/12/30/as-a-dark-…

Not a lottery ticket, but an axe to break down the door. I think many of us who gave so much of ourselves in the 2008 election are well aware that having Obama as president was important but not enough. It's this understanding of hope I wish progressives would seize on as we go forward.

]]> By: lindadapper http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/comment-page-1/#comment-52055 lindadapper Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:37:53 +0000 http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2010/01/03/continuing-dialogue-with-micah-sifry-hope-health-activism-and-results/#comment-52055 Right on. Hope that they listen and put you on Rachel Maddow. You make sense of issues that seem almost incomprehensible at the start and explain them in a logical and understandable manner. Right on. Hope that they listen and put you on Rachel Maddow. You make sense of issues that seem almost incomprehensible at the start and explain them in a logical and understandable manner.

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