Stop. Breathe. Read.

by Karoli on January 24, 2010 · 8 comments

David Plouffe is back with a big editorial in today’s Washington Post arguing for why Democrats must pass health care reform, and soon. As part of his argument, he enumerates the immediate benefits of passing the bill:

If we do pass it, dozens of protections and benefits take effect this year. Parents won’t have to worry their children will be denied coverage just because they have a preexisting condition.

John Aravosis and others have read this paragraph to mean they’re dumping pre-existing conditions provisions for adults. No. Plouffe was speaking only of the immediate benefits of passing the Senate bill, which does have an exception for children under age 19 that takes effect upon passage. Adult pre-existing conditions exclusions are prohibited for years beginning 1/1/2014.

Let’s all calm down, shall we?

Update: 2:30pm 1/24/09 I’ve cited the specific sections of the Senate bill that deal with the pre-existing conditions bans to Crooks and Liars and AmericaBlog. I was told on Twitter that if I proved Aravosis wrong, he’d make a correction. I’m still waiting.

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  • Dave_von_Ebers

    My biggest problem with Aravosis is he turns differences of opinion about strategy into personal attacks on the Obama administration. It's fine to disagree with the approach the White House has taken, but to call Obama a sell out just because he takes a different approach than Avarosis would, or to say he doesn't want real reform, or whatever, is wrong and unhelpful. He did the same thing to Hillary Clinton during the primaries: He constantly attacked her motives rather than simply expressing disagreement. We need to stop attacking our own and start working with Obama and the Democrats (the real Democrats, anyway) to develop a better strategy moving forward. It shouldn't be about an individual blogger's ability to take the president down; it should be about getting back on the right track.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    Dave, I feel like suddenly people are taking a page out of the teabaggers' diaries and posting a whole lot of nonsense that just isn't factually accurate. How did a sentence saying “this is what happens immediately” turn into “we're only going to do it for this group”? It's remarkably akin to what happens when Sarah Palin posts about death panels. I always thought liberals were the sensible ones…now I'm not so sure.

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  • Dave_von_Ebers

    And, in case you haven’t been on Twitter lately, our good friends on the left are doing the same thing over this so-called spending freeze, which isn’t a freeze. They all pounced on Obama without knowing what he was actually proposing, and when the truth came out they just doubled-down. I hope our fellow lefties are prepared to deal with President Romeny in 2012. I’m sure not looking forward to it.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    I saw the pounce earlier and just had to back away. With that said, I'm a little confused over it and still not sure of what it really accomplishes. I'm still working on puzzling that out. As wonky as I am, I feel like the messaging around it is flawed if I'm scratching my head while half the world I give attention to is screaming. I ended up writing a post about it just now…I'd like to see him really keep his SOTU under wraps with only little teeny hints and no details, because handing it off to the sharks in the media, press and yes, even Internet without getting some support under the base makes for a shaky delivery.

  • http://twitter.com/avivao Aviva

    Aravosis was just plain wrong, and his article was unintentionally — or intentionally — inflammatory. He succeeded in scaring the bejeezus out of a bunch of unthinking, partially-literate, and reactive children ranging from 20 to 80 years in age.

    In fact, I'm totally flipped out after reading the lame, unintelligent, unthinking, alarmist, childish, infantile, and totally illogical comments that so many wrote in response to Aravosis' erroneous article.

    Even worse, I'm embarrassed by those comments. Why?

    1. Some are just plain unintelligent. Whether the writers sound stupid because they're lazy, or truly limited in intellect, I don't know.

    2. Some are self-indulgent temper tantrums, raging against absolutely nothing (much like tantrums in 2-year-olds who inexplicably go into hysterics for no apparent reason).

    3. Some are intentionally provoking people who are (a) unable to read very well, or (b) unable to conduct the light research required to make sense of Aravosis' panicky claims, or (c) intentionally misunderstanding the clarifications written so articulately and clearly by Karoli.

    For a long time, I've been concerned about attacks against liberals/progressives who critique Obama and/or his actions. Democracy requires informed dissent. As long as criticism focused on policy, rather than on alleged motivations and character flaws, critique can be constructive. It potentially helps refine thinking, which often leads to more finessed actions and policies.

    But there isn't one iota of “informed dissent” in 95% of the comments made in response to Aravosis' most unfortunate article. There's nothing but panic, rage, slander, innuendo, willful disregard for facts, stupidity, fear, impulsive spewing of barely coherent language, and destructive emotion.

    Now I understand why Karoli, Shoq, and many others have been so frustrated and angry at criticism of Obama and/or his policies. It's because much of the criticism is unfounded, invalid, overstated, speculative, bigoted, and inflammatory. In fact, I'm having difficulty telling the difference between the rhetoric of many radical right-wing populists (the so-called “teabaggers,”) and the rhetoric of many radical left-wing populists. Most of it sounds insane, frankly. Most of it has no basis in reality, and is unthinking, uncaring catharsis.

    We don't need catharsis, kids. This is not a mid-1960s Esalen therapy group, where you replay the enraged infant who didn't “get everything he/she wanted” by screaming obscenities and unfiltered, regressive emotion at the top of your lungs.

    We need intelligence, open-minded discourse, informed dissent, a concerted effort to find commonalities, and the adult ability to work pragmatically toward the principled goals I believe we all share.

  • http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/ Karoli

    standing ovation. that is all. nothing more I could add that would make it any more powerful than what you said.

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