Rick Warren, What Were You Thinking? – UPDATED

You might want to reread that passage about “those that don’t work, shouldn’t eat..” because it’s referring to the those within the body of Christ, to churches that were holding things in community, NOT to those outside the church.

Let me see if I have this right:  you are praising Warren for the courage to speak to truth on the basis that, even though what he actually said was a lie, if we change what he actually said to something that he did not actually say, than this thing that he did not actually say would be true.  Very brave of him! 

This is risible, even before we get to his lie being a vicious one against the weakest members of society (which apparently passes for Christ-like behavior in some circles) while the true statement he did not in fact make would merely be misleading (since the exact form of taxes paid is irrelevant) while still being an attack on the weak.

  Who will decide how much to pay according to mathew 25? The professional politicians?
  You state that the poor like me pay taxes at the pump and then you assert that exxon 
doesn’t pay taxes . You are correct , BOA ,EXXON ,GE  don’t pay taxes the customers do.
    The US gvt sends out 70million checks  each month and what point do you suggest from your scriptures  that the gvt sends out enough?  
  For the first time ever in history , the poor have sega ,microsoft playstations with cable tv air conditioning and don’t have to work anywhere to obtain their benefits. Certain groups of our society after reaching the 12th grade test at only perform at an eight grade level . The KKK could not have done as good a job as the gvt social agencies to destroy the black family.
    So your diatribe is just one of jealousy and not aimed at helping the very people you use to attack the rich.  
    WE spend upwards of  400 to 700 billion on education and of course it is never enough. 
     We hand out food stamps and then have to have a school lunch program because the parents are too sorry to use the food stamps to feed their children. And if you don’t want to tax more for more school lunch programs you are evil and selfish .It is criminal that we encourage parents to not be responsible for their children.
 In San Francsico , the average person that has a job makes 47k a yr. The average city employee retires before he is 60yrs old and their retirement is 77k a yr. The average fireman retires making 105k a yr. So each time i hear about the rich not paying their fair share of taxes 
i chuckle , because the people that mostly advocate higher taxes are those gvt workers that will benefit the most.
       The more money that gvt spends , the more businesses will fail  and their will be less jobs for the poor to find an entry into the marketplace thereby creating more of a need for gvt services.
  Keep up the good work in using scripture to justify taking money rather than Christians giving out LOVE.  

So Rick Warren isn’t entitled to a political opinion, or feel fustration about how some things are going in the political world?   I am a Christian and I am also fed up for “that half” who get free passes on income tax.  It doesn’t mean I don’t also do my part to assist and minister to those less advantaged, and its not considered hyprocritical as I do my part to help the situation.  Do you?  Everyone has fustrations once in a while, it doesn’t mean we’re bad people, including you.

render unto Casear… remember? Jesus didn’t abolish human governance or institutions? 

PS Taxes=theft? Huh? Police. Fire. The Courts. Do u drive on roads? Cross a bridge? Call 911? My father who was wealthy thought it was his patriotic duty to pay his fair share to a country that afforded him such opportunity and prosperity. Most wealthy patriotic Americans agree that they personally are not paying enough. 

I apologize for my fellow Christians. Forgive them. They know not what they say or do. 

If you are jealous of the 50% of Americans who don’t pay federal income tax, it is very easy to become one of them.  Just give away enough of your money to drop you down into your desired tax rate, and there you go:  no federal income tax, all your problems are solved, right?

It’s amazing to me how many people with money aren’t happy until they’re satisfied that everyone else is sufficiently miserable. 

Be sure to stone your grand mother if she goes out on the sabath….Not everything in the bible should be taken literally and some things should be thought of as completely ridiculous…..

If a fireman can retire on 105k a year, that is what he deserves.  The job is not an easy one.
They risk their lives daily for you and me.  Sometime they end up with injuries and illnesses
associated with smoke and exposure to smoke and chemicals.
Get a grip.  They pay into their retirement and they deserve every penny.
As far as the hated government worker goes.  Since when have we hated teachers and school
bus drivers.   

If the church would feed them, then we wouldn’t need the social net provided by the government.  Take a look at history to see the churches getting richer and richer as people starvedand died in the streets.  That pulls down all of society.  The church, unfortunately, DOES just point the way to the food stamp office, if they deign to even lookdown far enough to see the poor struggling to make it to their cathedral door.

He’s not allowed to lie. Lying is not opinion. Please take the time to actually learn what’s going on before you get all up-in-arms and start hurting people.

You have heard of “Seperation of Church and State”?. Someone that over sees a Mega Church and has influence over a congragation, shouldn’t be talking about government situations to his parish at all. If he wants to talk about government issues, he should give up his tax exemption status.  

Taxes are NOT theft- they are what citizens pay for the benefit of living in a civilized world. Police, firefighters, sanitation, the court system, a competent military, transportation infrastructure, public schools…take these away and you are in a third world country. Contrary to popular(right-wing)belief, it’s NOT your money. Would you eat at a restaurant and ignore the bill? You are an American-don’t ignore the bill! Regarding taxes, Christ said “Render unto Caeser what is Caesar’s…”. As far as the rich going to heaven for paying taxes, just look at the statistics for tax fraud. The IRS knows where to find the cheats and audits them disproportionately.If anything, they may be hellbound for tax crimes!

Rick Warren’s tweets run from the ridiculous to the, well, additionally ridiculous.  (Would you rather be a mushroom or an oak tree?  Everyone knows mushrooms are left in the dark and fed by horse manure .  He has tweeted that ‘pretty girls have the worst attitudes–what’s that about in a minister’s life?  Who knows., but apparently it troubles Mr. Warren enought to tweet it.
 
 Warren bragged the ensuing brouhaha over his 50% taxes post brought him 2200 additional ‘followers’ on Twitter, so Romans 8:38 (all things work together for good).  (Including MoosesFamousBBQ and a guy who says he’s the guy your girlfriends WANT to meet). 
 
I’m not as interested in how much Warren gives away as who GIVES him money – Rupert Murdoch, case in point.  Warren has said he is ‘Murdoch’s Pastor’ and ‘Murdoch published his book’.  Murdoch gave Warren 2 million for his PEACE project.  The problem being secular media is reporting Murdoch is building a porn empire.  This is troubling.  Apparently Warren is more insulated than politicians, because that might have been an election issue for a politician.
 
When questioned about his words, Warren evades and posts verses from Proverbs, using a version of the Bible that calls people stupid.  He has also posted non-Biblical quotes that calls people stupid.  (I’m still wondering why people buy his book at this point if he’s going to insult potential customers).  He posts that you have to build bridges to reach your enemies, then calls detractors stupid–some bridge.
 
I think Warren has a David out there who will get his had on the right stone and topple the Illusion-Driven Life Warren has insulated himself with.
 
 
 

You’re an accountant and you claim that you can’t deduct sales taxes? Every single individual who itemizes has the option to deduct sales taxes paid instead of income taxes withheld on the Federal Schedule A. This deduction is extended through 2011 and is most beneficial to those that itemize and live in a State that does not have income tax.

Well, when you’re rich and powerful, apparently someone else pays for all your meals (ummmm, like lobbyists or visiting Ugandan gay-killing “priests” soliciting “your support” of their ‘freedom-loving” laws?), because it’s abundantly clear this bitch ain’t skipped a single meal in the last few decades.

Yes, Warren’s practically a pauper.

Free car?  Free vacations?  Free first-class travel on corporate jets?  Church-paid mortgage?  I wonder if they count “royalties” on her “profit Driven Life” series as “income”, and who actually benefits from it either way?  Her church is a “charity” and we all know rich people need nicer buildings and manicured grounds.  Let me guess, she charges a $1 fee for running the church and donates $0.80? 

She’s St. Ricki everyone!  She only surrounds herself with hot, hairy, lickable men when on the road – why, that’s just like Jesus!!

~ Harry R. Sohl

He also tweeted that pretty girls have ugly attitudes.  I wondered why a minister would worry about that!  (someone above said it, but I saw it in his timeline)

You may be a Christian but you’re not a very good one. How many times is the word ‘poor’ in the bible? How did Jesus treat the poor?

Did you ever read the bible?

Jesus would be appaled by people like you. Christian my butt!